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This is just a series of ploys to make more marketing about fable. They know that if they make it api only nobody is going to talk about it. And knowing that openai will have a comparable model soon means they need to stir up some hype and make people use/talk about it as much as possible. And bluffing that access will be restricted until a specific date is just marketing. Like saying buy in the next 24 hours get one free.

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Yep, sounds like the usual time pressure tactics. Perhaps because no one's actually trying it.

In the mean time, their vibe coded frontend doesn't actually let me use Fable because it thinks i'm trying to hack open source software. What I'm actually doing is debugging null pointer crashes due to data corruption in the closed source software i work for these days, but no, you dirty hacker, you can't do that.

So let's recapitulate:

- they put out some marketing copy about Fable being a world ending threat for finding security vulnerabilities

- they get banned by the US government, which believes the marketing copy

- they add "safeguards" and the US government allows them to make it public again

- said safeguards make the product useless for their paying customers

I’ve consciously not used Fable because I want some usage allowance to remain for the rest of the week. The 2x billing is just too aggressive for me when I tried it (max x20 plan user currently).

> Yep, sounds like the usual time pressure tactics. Perhaps because no one's actually trying it.

For your average user, Sonnet is more than enough. Opus will be rarely used. Fable is really something professionals will use and even then with low frequency. The model is really good but the token economics don't make it so appealing to the amount and breadth of people you need to get people talking about Fable the way people talked about Chatgpt in 2022. AI fatigue is here and Anthropic and the like are fighting hopelessly against a rising tide.

More so my problem is that they are baiting people to burn tokens meaninglessly, when ni need to rush and hurry and try to max out your usage

That's your choice. I just turned Fable on and did my usual stuff.

But then I'm not vibe coding so my token usage is ridiculously small...

> Fable being a world ending threat for finding security vulnerabilities

No that’s the other myth ( some variants of spelling) one

I would try it but it goes to opus 4.8 for all we do and so we stopped trying. Our work is not focused on security but obviously, as everything has to, it needs to be audit security. And that will have it change the model.

"pointers?" Someone call the FBI! This guy is hacking!

Also the rerelease of the time limit over the holiday (july 4) was unfortunate, many Americans go offline for extended weekends (ex i was out almost a week). When i originally saw the fable 5 dates i just shrugged ah well guess i wont test it for a while.

That's how i feel about it too. But i haven't used it because there's no point in getting used to a new model if it's just gonna get taken away again. I wonder if they're also doing this to get some sort of signal on which types of users everyone is - for example someone else might always be chasing whatever the best model is

Oh don't get me wrong I would try to use the best model available (I don't always max out my usage, and a better model leads to less work from mw hypothetically) even when it can be taken away, I just refuse to feel pressured by them.

Spot on. OpenAI releases GPT 5.6 on Thursday.

Agreed. They've been doing this sort of thing since the beginning and it's infuriating that people eat it up. I really despise this company.

seems like they're following after the president!

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