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That's literally why we have GDPR. This will be very illegal and the law itself specifically bans user identification with camera on top of the stuff protected by GDPR.

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The enforcement of GDPR is more or less nonexistent for big companies. Even if they get fined, that is just cost of business for them.

In the text nothing prevents the manufacturer to stream the vide of your face to their servers all over the world and do the image processing there. It would even comply with GDPR if everybody pinky promised they not using that data for anything else.

I get the EU passed a law. A lot like Australia passed a law about banning under-16s from social media. Just like GDPR, enforcement is minimal. Passing laws divorced from reality does little.

In other words, you believe that because they mandate driver attention monitoring the manufacturers will install systems that are equipped wit storage and connectivity and they will process, transmit and sell this, no one will find out and even if they find out nothing will happen to them.

I disagree, that's a recipe for companies to spend more than they need at install time, then pay billions in fines and then pay again to re-call the vehicles to replace these systems.

GDPR is enforced, that's why US tech companies constantly complain about EU regulations.

No, I think the car companies will have telemetry from the sensor aggregated and sent back to them. The number of times it alerts, where the driver was, the nature of the alert, the speed of the vehicle at the time of the alert. There is a huge market from insurance companies to buy data like this so they can adjust premiums accordingly. I've worked at companies that wrote apps that had code in phones that would use the phone's accelerometer to assess driver ability and update risk models accordingly. I worked for a car company at one point, the the amount of financial pressure they were under (unit economics) was enormous, to the point where they were reevaluating the stitching in their seats to see if they could save money. They have access to the data, they need money, and there is a market to sell that data. When incentives line up that way, laws like the GDPR don't carry much weight.

You're aware of Consumer Reports recent investigation, right? https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/personal-informa...

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