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Any one knows what happens when duck tape is being used to cover the camera?

Expect an error but this will depend on the brand.

"Smudging" is a common trick. Just dab some face oil on the lens, just enough so it can't get detail but not so much that the system can tell there's a covering.

You can deactivate it, but has to be on every car start. It's so annoying having to tur off all that crap every single trip.

Sometimes i forget the lane assist ON and get nudged randomly at high speeds, so so scary.

Time to start jailbreaking car software

Those nudges are gentle and totally safe in every car I've ever had. And no "random" nudges outside road construction work with dubious lane markings where you need to have a grip on the wheel anyway. A regular firm grip always overrides lane keeping.

I mostly agree in my 2024 Ioniq 5, but not in my 2019 Subaru Outback. You can definitely override the lane keep if you have a firm grip and are ready for it, but it tries to throw me off the road often enough that I don't use it anymore.

The scariest was when I had to swerve into another lane to avoid some trash that was sticking into the road from the highway. It tried to force me back into it twice! Luckily I was ready but it gave me a fright for sure.

Maybe you'll be able to buy a box to plug into the CAN bus and simulate pressing the button to deactivate it. Sorta like the auto-stop eliminator for that horrid feature (which saves less than 5 gallons of gas per year in my dad's Subaru - thankfully mine is one year too old for that).

No, the regulation requires that the system can be turned off or just the warnings; however the manufacturer wants to do it.

> 3.1.2. It shall be possible for the driver to manually deactivate either the ADDW warning or the ADDW system, depending on which of the two possibilities (or both) the vehicle manufacturer chose to make possible.

The full text of the regulation is linked at the bottom of the article.

So we're just back to the button pusher era again?

Not sure about the systems on cars in the EU, but I got a loaner 2025 Hyundai Tuscon when my EV was in the shop. It had some driver attention monitoring feature with a camera above the steering wheel staring me in the eyes. I covered it with a piece of black electrical tape. It popped a little warning on the main display (IIRC, a crossed out eye, but maybe I'm confusing with Subaru Eyesight) when the car first started up, showing that the camera wasn't working, then proceeded to be silent for the rest of the drive.

I dunno if that'll fly going forward. I know I'll test it in every new car with this feature that I test drive though!

Car starts quacking at you

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