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I would hardly call it "world class". Most of the world is much harsher place to migrants than any EU member country. Privileged, well paid expats may be treated nicely in most of the world, but that does not apply to refugees and people who move for low-paid manual labor.

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Well paid expats wearing a hijab, who definitely aren't refugees, will not be treated nicely in Germany. Lived and worked in Germany and saw it a lot. It's a low bar indeed to treat skilled labor coming to your country nicely that sadly Germany can't even pass.

You are kind of expected to adjust yourself to the culture of the country you’re immigrating to. If you fail (or refuse) to do so in the most obvious/visible ways possible (like clothing), I think you shouldn’t be surprised when people look at you weird because you look out of place.

Someone wearing a hijab looks out of place in the land of the Döner?

> Someone wearing a hijab looks out of place in the land of the Döner?

The history with the Turkish gastarbeiters is a complicated one. Please don't twist the knife in the wound.

How is this twisting the knife in the wound? I wanted to say that they (and other people wearing hijabs) are part of German culture.

This is very bad faith and you know it.

It was in fact not, hence why I asked :/

I don't think even the women wearing the hijabs would consider it to be part of German culture.

I don't know about you, but I don't treat people worse just because they dress differently.

And similarly, I don't think it's reasonable to suggest OP is the wrong one for being treated worse for wearing clothes from their culture.

If you look out of place, you will get more looks, and that's it, that's where the line should end.

Sure, but I think what grates on people with Germany is the "they should know better" aspect of it. People have (or had) expectations of EU countries they don't have of "the harsher places".

Sometimes called the soft bigotry of low expectations

No I don’t think so. The “Germany should know better” is more akin to irony

Soft bigotry of low expectation is not open hostility so much as a giving up on a people—-X people are inherently incapable, so just let them be, don’t expect anything from them. As a result of painless low expectation, no one strives, no one offers them opportunities, the people don’t move forward, and the low expectation fuels further low expectation based on poor performance.

Mor maybe you were referring to expectation of other EU countries to be unwelcoming?

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