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My ASN Journey series (2024)

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> No, you can ask your provider to announce the IPs for you via a private ASN, but I have not seen a provider that is cheap enough to do BYOIP without an ASN. Getting your own ASN is the best option.

BYOIP in AWS is free. and VPC have lot of customisable and all are well documented.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ec2-byoi...

I've been running my own ASN for a while. I route both IPv6 and v4 back to my home network over wireguard. I use Vultr for one of my providers.

They have no additional charge for BYOIP and you can use their private ASN if you don't have your own: https://docs.vultr.com/support/products/network/can-i-use-my...

If I used AWS the bandwidth charges would probably be a bit high.

Probably the only part of that setup on AWS that wouldn't cost a fortune.

Thank you for this guide! I've been looking into getting an ASN in Australia, but the cost is much worth and the requirements stricter.

There also isn't the same kind of ecosystem locally (such as LIRs)

I believe APNIC requires you to be a registered company unlike RIPE who will allow individuals as customers, but the flip side is that becoming a company in Australia is quite easy paperwork, unlike in Germany where you have to put up a $25000 bond.

Edit: APNIC also wants you to provide some plans for your network upfront while RIPE NCC is more willing to just assume good faith. But their requirements do not seem onerous, and you are not held to the plans, it's just to check you have a need for the resources.

Registering a company in Australia is virtually free. APNIC fees, on the other hand, are much higher than what you'd pay with RIPE. It's pretty hard to justify a minimum of $1300 a year + a $500 sign-up fee just to have a personal ASN that you don't need unless you want to run a full table.

APNIC also has the advantage of having /24s reserved for new applicants (last I checked)

There's almost certainly tough requirements on that.

Not really. Have to be in the region and have an accepted requirement for PI space (dual homing is accepted). If you want a second /24, you need to have a plan to use it within a year. If you need more space, good luck have fun.

(You're expected to do the same qualification for transferring addresses too)

In germany you can register an UG for around 40€, thats way cheaper than a regular GmbH

worse?

A comprehensive beginners guide about getting your own ASN and own IP address

Is there a difference in costs/fees if you were to do this as a registered company w.r.t. an individual?

I believe, RIPE charges both types of parties the same amount for independent number resources and ASNs. Can't tell for the other RIRs. The main difference is that organisations are usually obtain LIR status as well in order to remove an intermediary between them and the RIR. And LIR fees are substantial (1K EUR sign-up, 1.8K EUR per annum) and individuals are probably not eligible for the status.

I think RIPE allows an individual to be an LIR because sole proprietorships are very common in some European countries. But you really shouldn't be an LIR for no reason, and the fee rightfully discourages that. If you want a PI block, get a PI block, instead of trying to pretend you're an LIR and then getting annoyed LIRs have high fees.

By the way it's high because the operating costs of the RIR are divided amongst LIRs - there's no other significant income source.

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