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Any source for that “Apple just doesn’t care”, as opposed to thinking there are security/privacy tradeoffs or other considerations that cut against such a feature?

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Ok, apple does not care, but gives “security/privacy” consideration as a public reason for not doing anything.

If Apple can store the sms/iMessage, and email history, and health/journal history, and my Wallet payment history, in a safe manner I would think Apple can store notification history in a safe manner. How would notifications be meaningfully different from these?

I think the proof of Apple’s level of care is in their lack of attention to this issue.

> How would notifications be meaningfully different from these?

Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly,

cold storage of secrets your architecture owns from start to finish.

> Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly

This is a good description of SMS and RCS.

and also a good description of Apple APN notifications being pushed to a Garmin watch,

or a car,

or your off-brand earbuds.

Which, again, is not meaningfully different. Yet it seems you insinuated so. Can you explain in detail?

Hopefully it wasn’t you who flagged me after asking me to explain in detail…

I did not flag you, but I certainly see why someone might.

Go on.

Go on with what? Asking you again to answer what you repeatedly avoid to answer?

This is the opposite of avoiding answering you. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48787084

With modern cryptography techniques, Apple could certainly do it if they cared enough. I guess the potential benefit doesn't justify the potential effort and cost related to the change, from Apple management point of view.

If they cared, they would give user triple confirm option to choose for example.

Oh wait this is apple, they always know whats best for the user and do the choices for them, even when wrong. So all is as expected

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