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You're heavily downvoted, and while this admin is absolutely autocratic far beyond anything we've ever seen, and democracy is eroding rapidly: privacy has backslid under every administration.

Obama had nearly a decade to revert the patriot act, along with other nefarious shit introduced after 9/11 like PRISM, but did nothing to touch it.

America has been creeping towards a surveillance state for decades, regardless of the party in power.

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couldn’t give two shits about being downvoted but of course tells you all you need to know about what HN has become :)

When the alternatives "aren't any better", wouldn't this mean you could vote for trump a 4th time?

Ofc not. Your statement is bs and deserves all the downvotes. You should take a closer look at the democrats in-fightig, maybe even participate in it, and tell again if a grass roots movement would ne equally bad. To me, this just sounds like you post-hoc rationalizing the idiocy you once voted for. Kamala wouldnt have been worse, same applies to McCain or even Pence.

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