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What is this in reference to? Karp has said that US tech companies should be more willing to work with military and intelligence agencies. By that standard, though, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Booz Allen Hamilton, heck even Microsoft are all supporters of "technofascism".

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> By that standard, though, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Booz Allen Hamilton, heck even Microsoft are all supporters of "technofascism".

certainly! fascism requires industry that cooperates with the state to produce the means of control; these are all companies that do exactly that!

By this logic, Ford and Boeing were contributing to technofascism when they were building tanks and planes for the Allies in WWII.

I don't think that most would agree with your understanding of technofascism.

There were fascist elements in what allies were doing to defeat fascism.

Ford propped Nazis in WW2, maybe that’s why you can’t put your finger on it.

And Boeing? And General Motors? And the hundreds of other companies that produced armarments?

They’ve been paving the path to the main US industry -> weapons. You gotta do what you gotta do to turn the profit. But you guys have also sacrificed a lot of human life.

So your answer is yes? The companies like GM, Cadillac, etc. they were buildings tanks to defeat the Nazis were themselves fascists, because producing armarments is an inherently fascist endeavor? Even if the military they're equipping is actively fighting against real fascists?

pressed into service?

or pressed the government into building more arms, and using them against the citizenry?

theres a pretty significant change between when the US was at declared war and when the companies making arms started pressing the US into undeclared war for the sake of selling the government more arms

Ukraine got rid of their nukes and look what happened.

Drop your guard down and you'll get eaten for breakfast.

I don’t think we can say that clearly looking almost ninety years back, but those 90 years lead to where we are today.

> heck even Microsoft are all supporters of "technofascism"

no one in their right mind is going to argue with that, not sure what your point is

Microsoft, a company mostly centered in the Pacific Northwest, is not exactly full of right wingers: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/microsoft-corp/summary?id=d...

Most of their employees are foreign and dont even fall on the left right poltical spectrum.

This is a company where 88% of employe political contributions went to Democrats. Even if many employees are apolitical, the allegations of fascism are absurd.

Most employees who donate vote left but but most employees may not necessarily vote.

owners and workers arent the same group

washington is full of right wing elites, even though the citizens are quite left wing

repeat that and look back at it?

the military industrial complex is certainly a fascist institution

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