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> they should have waited until the competition changed their prices first.

They did...

They're literally just passing on the costs https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing

Anthropic just provides a subscription - which Enterprise usually doesn't want you to use because everything you're submitting through that will be trained on / becomes part of their model.

So If you use it without explicit permission from your employer you may be committing a contract violation which can have serious consequences - up to jail time - as they can sue you for that.

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> Anthropic just provides a subscription - which Enterprise usually doesn't want you to use because everything you're submitting through that will be trained on / becomes part of their model.

My Pro account very clearly has a toggle for "Help improve our AI models: Allow the use of your chats and coding sessions to train and improve Anthropic AI models."

Which they may or may not adhere to

> Our use of Materials [...] Even if you opt out, we will use Materials for model training when: (1) you provide Feedback to us regarding any Materials, or (2) your Materials are flagged for safety review to improve our ability to detect harmful content, enforce our policies, or advance our safety research.

The last part is essentially a catch all, which let's them train on everything they want - and they probably are.

But the important bit here isn't actually wherever they're actually training on it - that doesn't matter from the legality aspect of it. You're liable anyway, as all contracts I've ever signed explicitly forbid me from sharing internal data of any kind (including code) with third parties.

You can be prosecuted just from using it - wherever anthropic decides to train it's model on it or not.

It's a little more complicated than that, unfortunately.

If you use Claude via API in your own app, you're paying full price.

If you have an "API Plan" for Claude Code (i.e., free), you're paying full price.

If you have a Pro, Max, Max 5x, or Max 20x, your tokens are subsidized up until a rate limit. Then you pay full price for usage thereafter, until the end of the billing cycle.

The widespread belief in industry right now is that the per-seat pricing (which Copilot bailed from first) is going to go away in the near-term.

It's not more complicated? I referenced the subscription... I just added a small warning about it as some people may or may not be aware about the fact they're opening themselves up to serious consequences if they decide to use it on their employers code without explicit permission... Depending on their employers digression, eg largish entrenched employers which value their IP will be more willing to inflict damages on you. An upstart will likely not care unless the CEO sees an opportunity to profit personally.

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