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I agree with your reasons but not with "the majority doesn't care". Sure they do. The internet is filled with Windows hate, and Reddit isn't as small as you remember it to be.

The majority has no other option. Linux is too much trouble to learn and Mac requires a new device. What else are you supposed to do?

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The majority also wants their stuff to work - the program that solves a problem or the hardware they bought, and all that surface area to support it is how Windows is Windows.

> What else are you supposed to do?

Customize. You can strip out entire features, often called “debloat” but it’s hyper specific. It couldn’t be a general purpose pc after, and a debloated gaming config might lack the support to run other kinds of apps, or vice versa.

They even have a lightly modified version called LTSC although it retains so much feature surface area so as to remain “Windows” it’s not like the article’s idea, but it exists.

Hey, Mac is a huge learning experience too. If your mind is set in the ways of Windows, you are gonna have a bad time when you assume Mac is just as bad (easy example: using clunky Windows workarounds to avoid problems that don't exist on Mac). You almost become oblivious to the straightforward way of doing things because Windows is so fucky. It can be really hard to get an average person used to Windows to find value in Mac, because they don't naturally see the simplification to their workflow, they just expect Mac to work the same way (ie, for their workarounds to function the same way).

Up until OS 26 I'd agree with you but honestly it's not far off from windows other than some small permissions annoyances and the stupid natural scrolling. I got a neo out of desperation to do some audio work and immediately felt at home where I never did on my older Air.

I strongly prefer natural scrolling, though I did grow up with it. I think 26 was a huge mis-step and Apple is going to need to go back on a lot of what they did (which they are starting to do with 27, though they have a long ways to go).

I miss how tight the older versions were. They were technical and got the job done -- the newer designs seem like they're trying too hard to be round and big and friendly. Everything is so spaced out, so much is wasted, information density is pretty much completely gone. It's so sad.

My Intel MBP is still on 10.14.6 because even Catalina was too much for me (removing 32-bit support is kind of a full-reinstall sort of move). But Big Sur looked kinda awful the moment I saw it and Tahoe feels like the Mac is completely losing its identity and principles.

I'm on ASi now and running the latest macOS 27 beta. I don't regret it but I just feel sad, you know?

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