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Comment by smalltorch | Hacker News Reader

Those are incredible terms that no one read.

Almost literally every single social media site in the past ~15+ years has had those exact terms in it.

Everything you upload, almost everywhere, can be used by the site owners to do whatever they like for their own purposes (reselling is somewhat often excluded / non-transferrable). There are a handful of exceptions, but they're very much exceptions, not the normal rule.

HN maybe?

HN terms: "By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed."

Sites need to include this language to protect themselves from malicious law suits. But they don’t need to actually do stupid, disrespectful stuff with that power.

Remember the Zuck quote when asked why people gave him their data: “they trust me, dumb f*cks”.

When someone shows you who they are, trust them. He should be banned from having user data.

> Sites need to include this language to protect themselves from malicious law suits

No, they do not. They do need to have people believe they do need to.

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Do you really expect us to read the terms of service of the service we use?!

If you want to complain afterwards, yes.

I would suggest that the services expect that we don't, which is why they are comfortable putting absolutely anything they want in the terms

I cancelled my Instagram account when they added those terms in the early 2010s. At the time it was mostly photographers reading them and closing accounts but it wasn’t exactly a secret.

I get sad because people liked Insta pre-Zuckerberg. Like, it was growing. People seem to couch it in terms of "They had 12 employees. They weren't going anywhere". But they were. Zuckerberg just wanted to enlargen his war chest

I refuse to sign up for an Insta. I will not acquiesce to 'lol we're going to put a login wall on every page'

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