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Do any of these studies account for new parent sleep deprivation?

> new parent sleep deprivation

Think the 9to5 culture make its even harder. It takes a village, probably 2 if you've got twins / triplets+. 9to5 is not something "long childhood" can be compatible with? https://onbeing.org/programs/alison-gopnik-the-evolutionary-...

I slept way less and more fragmented when I was a student.

That is almost too hard to believe. Sleep less? Ok. More fragmented? Doubtful, unless your baby slept more than 4hrs straight in their infancy.

Same on my side; I was constantly working and studying with 2-3 hours sleep max for years.

Life was harder. Then again nothing breaks my brain like the cry of my daughter so probably not one to one.

Students also tend to be younger. We could all survive on 4h as young adults, I imagine.

Our kid sleeps like crap, some nights I don’t get any full cycles (~90 minutes in adults).

I’ve no idea why we’re trying for a second, send help.

I read, "Our kids sleeps like crabs" It was interesting trying to figure that out.

Your second kid only takes half the effort. Half it again for a third. New parents always try to be perfect. It takes a while for them to get pragmatic.

I hope so. People around us either share your opinion or say they compound on each other in terms of work.

Modern anxious parenting often tries to prevent every conflict, disappointment, boredom, risk and bad feeling.

Pragmatic parenting accepts that kids need to hear:

No. Not now. That’s enough. You’ll survive. Go play. Eat what’s there. Bedtime. Sort it out. I love you, but the answer is still no.

My wife and I set up sleep shifts during the first two months. I would sleep from 9 PM to 3 AM, then we'd spend an hour all together, then she'd sleep from 4 AM to 10 AM. During a person's sleep time, they were not to be disturbed except for an emergency. We'd also sleep anytime the baby was napping.

It kept us sane. Just knowing that we would each get hours of uninterrupted sleep was great.

+1 to this method. Prior to having a reserved ~6 hour slot of sleep the lack of sleep was getting BAD.

You're not parenting alone. Good parents make sure everyone can get enough sleep.

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