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When you generate one or two blog posts with LLM they look pretty good. And you will be impressed with that one clever bit it adds that you didn't even ask for. But then you generate 50 of them and they all converge into the same pattern. It's hard to prove that an article is AI generated but they are instantly recognizable.

An aside, I usually take my written blog posts through a pass on Notebooklm to generate a podcast like discussion about it. It used to be a good way to extract some insights I haven't thought of. But after 50 of them, I can predict what the host will "pushback" on and exactly when. Then they magically resolve their differences and agree with whatever the idea was. It's truly impressive when you just consume sporadically. But listen frequently and they converge into one blob.

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> It's truly impressive when you just consume sporadically. But listen frequently and they converge into one blob.

And something that shows that behavior is a scammers wet dream!

I suspect there are new invariants emerging. We don’t know what they are and we will probably have to reach into the liberal arts to describe them but to me what you’re seeing is akin to the subatomic world exposing itself through diffraction patterns.

You're just looking for the study of rhetoric. LLMs have clustered on certain rhetorical patterns/gestures, probably because of a combination of frequency in input and bias in training. But rhetoric also concerns the logical structures that underpin communicative techniques, and it's this logical infrastructure that's shaky or bizarre in LLM content (like the GP noticing how "pushback" always resolves without further examination).

> You're just looking for the study of rhetoric.

I presume you mean, that what I and others is observing is patterns in mere rhetoric. That this is just unimportant window dressing around the actual problem solving.

Yet, generation of rhetoric seems to be one of the key usecases, and one of the key features that makes this technology seem “intelligent”.

Discussing style is only scratching the surface on classical rhetoric.

An LLM will rarely be able to move the needle on ethos or pathos beyond generating well-formed sentences with proper spelling.

> But then you generate 50 of them and they all converge into the same pattern.

The AI slop that appears on YouTube as "revenge stories" and "POV life" all have that pattern. There's almost always a Marcus and a Richard, sometimes a Victoria, and they have consistent personalities across stories.

> they all converge

AI is regression to the mean.

Much like Socialism.

Om an acute basis, AI can be just as helpful as that safety net.

As a chronic matter, "it's not excellence--it's mediocrity".

And capitalism as seen in the USA is regression to the bottom of the cesspool?

Please explain your point in the context of the fun the FIFA tourists are having.

If you need another comment upon which to pour resentment, then I am here fpr you.

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