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> 1) I’ve put enough kms on FSD to know that it isn’t going to drive into a house.

Is it possible FSD on this vehicle was a different version? Can't FSD change from one drive to the next, based on software updates or even external conditions?

Perhaps you drove in a different region with differing conditions?

> 3) Regardless of who was controlling it, why did this guy let his car jump the kerb and go through a house? Why was he going fast enough?

Why is it called "Full Self Driving" if the person behind the wheel must control (or even just monitor) the speed?

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That’s exactly the thing. We’re on FSD 13 and America is on FSD 14, we’re always about a year behind. Yours is significantly better than ours (being RHD market), but ours still wouldn’t drive through a house.

You’re extremely confident about this just based on your experience of it not happening to you. It’s good that it hasn’t driven you into a house but that doesn’t mean it can’t fail in a way that does drive someone else into a house.

Well, I’ve seen it very confidently and correctly navigate rural unmarked roads, and drive around rocks and logs across the road and things like this. I find it hard to believe it would drive through a huge stationary object like a house, which I imagine is definitely in the training data.

I guess I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think at this stage it’s improbable.

The computer does not see things like you see things ;)

The fact that you are saying "but houses are in the training data!" demonstrates your naivete.

Do you think there's some magic going on here?

I believe how good your FSD is also depends on how new your Tesla is because older ones are underpowered and maybe use an underpowered vision model

> Perhaps you drove in a different region with differing conditions?

Agreed.

He's driven it "across Australia". Which means long straight highways for hundreds and hundreds of miles at a time (then recharge, then do long straight highway for hundreds and hundreds of miles), and often fairly lightly trafficked:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Perth,+Western+Australia,+Au...

Like... absolutely shocking that FSD performs decently on well maintained, largely straight highway in generally clear desert conditions. Surely this is indicative of its behavior everywhere else! /s

Haha. Driving through Sydney is way worse than Los Angeles. We don’t all live out in the sticks with snakes in our boots.

I would agree, and know well, though I lived in Melbourne for two decades. But still, "driving across Australia" doesn't involve a lot of time spent in the Sydney (or Melbourne) CBDs.

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