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Jesus, if he existed, didn't actually heal anyone or perform any miracles. That's mythology, not reality.

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How do you know?

Because I'm a grownup who knows the difference between reality and make-believe.

I take from this that you don't, otherwise you would explain it

You're the one who believes magic is real, it's up to you to explain it. Extraordinary claims and such.

This is ironic. They didn’t say they believe. You offered your belief that you know something that happened long ago (extraordinary claim), and they are naturally curious how you could know that. If you’re a time traveler or whatever we’d be quite interested to hear more.

Not everyone whose unfalsifiable beliefs differ from yours lacks maturity. In fact, some of them are mature enough to not resort to insults.

Signed, 50 years an atheist.

I think to claim that 2000 years ago there was one person who performed miracles and/or healed people that nobody else could, with no actual evidence it was done and nobody else has been able to do it since, you need a better response to someone questioning it than “oh were you there? prove it didn’t happen.”

No I don't because I'm not claiming that I know that it happened

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. There was no Jesus who performed miracles of healing

even the Jews of the time that did not believe or follow Jesus wrote that he performed signs. They claimed it was sorcery.

in Folio 43a of Tractate Sanhedrin of the Babylonian Talmud as follows:

‘It is taught: On the eve of Passover they hung Yeshu and the crier went forth for forty days beforehand declaring that "[Yeshu] is going to be stoned for practicing witchcraft, for enticing and leading Israel astray.”’

The relevant portions of the Bible record that the Jews of the Sanhedrin acknowledged the signs and miracles but said it was by the power of Satan that he did these things.

They also have countless records proving hundreds of thousands of women were witches, with ironclad proofs such as “if we stab them they scream so they must be witches, off to the pire” or “throw them bound in the water, if they float it means they’re evil because water (baptism) rejects them so they’re witches -> burn.”

> What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

What’s your evidence for this claim?

Logic. Prove I didn’t eat a peanut just now; good luck.

He's not unique though. Quite a few people are on record for performing miracles in front of large audiences. Seemed like it was all the rage around this time period.

Vespasian apparently healed blind people in Alexandria. Apollonius of Tyana had a very colourful life performing all kinds of magic. Honi the Circle Maker was bringing the rain over in Judea.

Must've been something in the water other than lead!

Because I was there?

>How do you know?

a 4 word summary of the entire works of every religion in the world, ever -- the original Pascal's Wager flavored FOMO social networking maneuver.

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