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Half of Americans voters elected Trump. Most people are idiots, I wouldn’t use that as a gauge yet.

It's pretty telling that only 16% have a positive view on it, then. If even Trump has more than twice as high approval than your product, you've royally fucked up.

It's interesting that you (and, I'm guessing, a majority of HN folk who comment) feel that conservative intellectuals like Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, John Mearsheimer, Niall Ferguson, Harvey Mansfield, Heather Mac Donald to quote only a few, voted for Trump. Are these people idiots or partook of some low scheming advantage as a result?

This wildly assumes that "I voted for $candidate" means "I like $candidate." Every presidential election cycle we get served up two turds, one with a (D) and the other with an (R) by their name, and we have to pick which turd we'd like to ruin our country for us the least.

while I’d say that was true in most elections, this one the choices for the future couldn’t be more stark. The dude just had a UFC on the white house lawn, for instance, and fell into the Iran/Israel trap every previous president had avoided. But yeah, Kamala and Trump are the same level of turdness /s.

What do combat sports have to do with anything?

Correctly punctuated it's "combat" "sports" being neither combat nor a sport.

A generous response

Kamala is a turd regardless of how much worse Trump is. She was advocating the status quo while people are worried we are maintaining an unsustainable path and their lives are only getting harder.

When one person says we are going to slowly drive a train off a cliff and the other says they will drive quickly but may or may not drive off a cliff, I understand why many people at the front of the train would take the risk of voting for an unpredictable speed demon.

Trump sells all sorts of things. Anyone buying any of it is a fool.

I agree. But when the opposition tells you your shitty life will remain shitty in a best case scenario it isn't very inspiring or invigorating which you need to entice people to actually go vote for someone.

Yeah, why not make up a bunch of lies?

Or why not make an actual plan to improve things and solve problems instead of throwing in the towel before you even start?

It also doesn't help to be a prosecuting attorney that extorted poor people for judicial profit. Only the wealthy view prosecutors as good people.

What has Trump done that makes a meaningful positive difference in the lives of people making less than $250k/year?

I never said he did, I never said I support him or anything he does. But Trump being a complete idiot doesn't make Kamala not shitty and uninspiring to voters.

> But Trump being a complete idiot doesn't make Kamala not shitty and uninspiring to voters

Okay, and? Did anyone even dispute that?

Then I don't know why yall keep responding with talk about Trump if the idea isn't she is a good candidate by proxy of Trump being a bad one. But that isn't how it works. A turd is a turd even if it floats.

People were already talking about Trump because he's the President. I didn't bring up Kamala, you did.

> A turd is a turd even if it floats

Okay? Again, you brought up Kamala

>Or why not make an actual plan to improve things and solve problems instead of throwing in the towel before you even start?

I don't know, you tell me? According to you it's reasonable enough in this scenario.

But, Brawndo's got electrolytes.

Ah, you must be one of those enlightened centrists that doesn't recognize a shifting overton window even if it grabs you by the....

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