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My company has Claude. People were excited to use Claude. Absolutely no one, despite the option, considered a grok model.

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For a lot of people, Grok is the first AI they got to use through Twitter. Grok does get quite a lot of usage, and isn't out of the game - coding tools aren't the only use case for AI.

this is like saying people still use google glass. sure, some people might but AI-wise it is as dead of a product as it gets

Google glass has been discontinued? Besides, many people use it on Twitter everyday. Usage is not limited to what you can see on the Openrouter dashboard.

many people use copilot inside outlook to auto-complete their sentences as well :)

Meaning that Copilot is actually a success, even if you don't like it ;-)

Because Microsoft managed to sell it to a huge number of companies, not directly because people are using it. Hardly anyone is paying for Grok.

US government is paying for Grok to help it send bombs on Iranians. That's a use case.

with this thinking I wish that all your products are as successful as copilot is ;-)

A bad product can be successful with the right distribution. This is what happens with Grok and Copilot.

> Twitter everyday

So what? How much money is that making?

these users are probably losing the company money.

the failure is in converting regular people into actual ai product consumers. Companies are realising that the money is not in regular consumers but in enterprise and they are not considering grok as a serious alternative.

if anything, the name, the branding and the x/twitter affiliation has hurt adoption from money makers rather than help it.

so yes, people know it, but no one is willing to pay for it

Depends, Grok stimulates engagement and pushes to stay on the plaform and feed it data. If anything, it helped justify a massive valuation for SpaceX, which is a metric of success for most corpos.

It helped the valuation but as just like SpaceX hallucinations about the space data centres. Doesn't mean its not a crappy low end model itself. Btw is Twitter even making any money?

"my company doesn't use it so no one uses it" - typical out of touch HN commenter.

Given that Grok is selling all of the compute capacity from its flagship data centre out to a direct competitor sorta speaks for itself.

Does it mean they are out of the race? I have no idea, but things don't look great.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986

They're only selling compute from Colossus 1.

There's a HN article and discussion about Anthropic expanding to use Colossus 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 I think it's fairly clear that grok isn't using as much compute as expected.

Seriously though. I haven’t heard anyone use Grok in software engineering context. Maybe I live under a rock.

There are more uses to AI than just software engineering…

So far seems like none of those use cases have generated meaningful income streams? The consumer/non-developer market is mostly dominated by OpenAI and Google anyway...

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