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As I understand it, ITAR regulations for export controls have just been applied to any form of Mythos.

These are overseen by U.S. Departments of State and Commerce, and forbid foreign nationals from access to any form of Mythos, either within or outside the U.S.

Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.

It appears that Anthropic does not have internal controls to implement these restrictions in any form, so the only option was to shut Mythos down.

Penalties for ITAR violation can reach ten years in prison and a million dollars per violation. (I can post a link to those details if there is any interest.)

As long as Anthropic is a U.S. company, there is no escaping this.

https://fortune.com/2026/06/14/how-a-warning-from-amazon-led...

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> Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.

It was my understanding that not even green card holders may access Mythos. Normally when restrictions like this are put in place, you need a exemption as a green card holder. A geen card is just a permit to live and work in the US. Its not the same as citizenship.

> Security Clearance: Green Card holders are generally prohibited from jobs that require high-level security clearances or sensitive government/military roles reserved exclusively for U.S. citizens.

That's not true. ITAR and security clearance are entirely separate regulatory regimes. For ITAR purposes, being a permanent resident is good enough. I used to work for a defense contractor, and we hired plenty of green card holders. They were not in general assigned to work that required a clearance, but plenty of defense-sensitive, ITAR-controlled work is done by green card holders.

Were those ITAR export controls chosen because they really are the most appropriate tool for this particular case, or because they could be deployed at a very short notice?

Mythos was advertised as being able to do massive damage to IT systems over government and the private sector.

How could restriction not be appropriate.

So Anthropic can't even move to Europe now since that would be considered a crime against national security?

Like trying to move a missile industry from USA to EU.

Individuals can leave, but the company cannot transfer restricted intellectual property.

Europe has extradition treaties, so the U.S. can force anyone in Europe back to the U.S. for criminal indictment who demonstrates inappropriate possession of this technology.

Simply move the training datasets and recreate it in the EU.

However, I think the US would treat this as treason (like they wouldn't want nuclear scientist to work for other nations).

I believe that Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO) was born in Italy, and is already an EU citizen.

He is probably reviewing many exit options today.

no, he's american born. He would be entitled to (or already have) Italian citizenship by ius sanguinis ("blood right") tho.

You're lying.

Wow. Calling out blatant lies and got downvoted four times with no comment behind that. Peak HN experience.

Also that comment got indexed by Google already.

Hey, I obviously could not have downvoted you.

I had remembered Amodei's Italian heritage and assumed that he was born in Italy. I've forgotten where I read this.

I was wrong.

No worries. These days people downvote for any reason so I'm getting used to it.

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