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Sweden has 14 sick days no questions asked before you need a doctors note. The German way of having to call your doctor for a flu note is a little odd to me. You do loose the first day's pay (the meme is that too many people were off sick when there was a world cup finals or something), and then 80% pay.

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This is not accurate. In Germany, you usually only have to get a doctor's note at 2 or 3 days, if youre only sick for a day or two you don't need one.

And there's an unlimited number of sick days. As long as you have a doctor's note, you still get paid, up to some ridiculous limit at which you might have to get government support instead.

It's up to the employer, they can ask for a doctor's note from day 1. Many employers have more lenient rules, though.

I think at some limit the health insurance pays back the employer, right?

> You do loose the first day's pay

Many countries have this system and the usual effect is that the duration people are sick for is magically never less than 2 days. It's dumb policy.

yeah, when denmark switched from loosing first days pay to the first day also being paid sick rates dropped more than enough to pay for it.

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