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Yoti does not report GrapheneOS users to the authorities

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Since they repudiate the alleged claim I ask: qui bono? Who benefited from imputing they did?

>The OP of this reddit post has a lot of other posts (now hidden) about age verification, bypassing it, and privacy. They even got called out about this in the reddit thread and responded by hiding their profile, but you can see it on google still if you google for “reddit PaiDuck”

(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424055)

They may be trying to vilify Yoti, they may be farming karma, they may be trying to discourage people from using GrapheneOS.

There have been a media attempt in France to vilify GOS and there was coverage of police in Spain being suspicious of Pixel users. The De and Para from the Protonmail UI in the reddit post indicates Spanish or Portuguese

>They may be trying to vilify Yoti, they may be farming karma, they may be trying to discourage people from using GrapheneOS

I don't understand why you draw that conclusion. Based on:

That just sounds like a privacy-conscious person doing things privacy-conscious people would do.

If they are faking emails, which is what we are speculating, causing an uproar like this, they are not doing normal privacy things.

What if they aren't faking the e-mails, and it's Yoti who is lying? Then it's just a privacy-conscious person.

What if neither is lying? The e-mail was sent, but this was never recorded on Yoti's customer support records, or the record was deleted? Do we know what kind of customer support system Yoti is running? What if there was a bug or hardware failure? What if someone saw it being deleted but they figured it's better for them if they didn't say anything, so Yoti isn't aware of its own internal cover up?

What if PalDuck was actually paid by Yoti to publish a fake e-mail screenshot as part of a PR campaign? What if the screenshot is real, but it comes from a different timeline and Yoti did nothing wrong in this timeline?

With this "he said she said" situation, considering nobody is going to open an investigation over a reddit post, I think we might have more fun speculating about time-travelling screenshots. We'll never know the truth either way.

If the email is DKIM signed it could be easily proven

Wrong dynamic to focus on, as at most it's either some competitor from their same cesspool, or just a social media karma farmer. The main dynamic is that the original claim is easily believed, as it's not any kind of stretch to think that a privacy-invading surveillance company would be hostile to secure operating systems. The only real question is what hostile methods they actually do employ, right?

Some person: big evil tech did big evil thing like every other big evil tech

Big evil tech: we didn't do obvious evil thing (we won't say we're not evil though)

Who to believe?

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