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The EU is only interested in interoperability and centralization of data so they can put their citizens under surveillance. I hope Apple continues to exit this market on the edges.

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I don't think the GDPR came from an effort to surveil, but the world has changed in the last ten years and I do agree with this assessment today.

Ah yes the well known EU equivalent of the CIA, NSA

The one that’s so secret it’s not in any of the treaties that the sovereign nations that comprise the EU signed up for and implemented in line with their own democratic processes

That agency

Meanwhile they struggle to put together a border patrol, but advanced pan European surveillance apparatus that isn’t run by the US. Yeah bro

I don't think they were necessarily thinking of one EU-wide agency, but the recent attacks on encryption including Chat Control which almost passed, a lot of EU countries voting for far-right governments. I do believe we still have it better than in the US wrt privacy (e.g. we don't have Flock cameras), but we need to be careful considering what EU governments have been doing.

> EU governments

“European” governments. Non-european governments too.

By definition “not” the EU

Of course, but I'm replying to a comment that speaks like surveillance doesn't exist in the EU because there is not a European NSA, so I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk.

> I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk.

So specifically NOT MI6, GCHQ, the Swiss, Norway, FSB.

Only the members of an economic bloc that you envy.

Okay bro

One of the main rights enabled by the GDPR is to request to have data deleted, how would that facilitate surveillance?

They have trackers in the Euros so they can track you across state lines /s

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