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Legitimate question, what would Israel need that we don’t already openly provide?

Protection from the risk that the tide might turn on them despite their extensive political lobbying? Just taking a guess here but probably not far off.

One of the YouTube "CIA former spies" explained it very well (paraphrasing): "we shared the F-35 with them, but we kept about 10% of the technology to ourselves and sold them a variant. That wasn't enough for them, they ran an espionage operation to get the remaining 10%".

Dirt on anyone proposing that we stop openly providing such assistance?

"The designation stems from concerns within the Pentagon that Israel is making a particular effort to surveil top U.S. officials to get information on the Trump administration’s internal deliberations and decision-making on the conflicts in the Middle East, the officials said."

So Israel wants to know what Trump is going to do next.

Don't we all.

Seems like he's the only one that doesn't feel any need to think about this question.

Which, of course, is deliberate. He has weaponized uncertainty to perfection.

If that was true, he wouldn't keep losing negotiations.

Weaponized against us, the American people, not against any of our geopolitical rivals.

The vessel state now fully controls its host, but I think public sentiment is reversing it just a little.

Anything that the chief-executives of either government can exploit to keep themselves out of jail.

I mean, they did just start a war with iran as a joint venture with trump.

I could understand why anyone who starts a joint venture with trump would be nervous about trump selling them out. It is trump after all. Probably is a logical thing to be concerned about.

there's currently disagreements with Israel on their approach to Lebanon being way more aggressively and murderous than "necessary", whatever that means. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5904899-trump-ne...

The well publicized disagreements are just diplomatic cover. The USA can look tough. Israel might back off for a little bit. Everyone looks good for a moment. Reason has prevailed. Then it'll all go back to Israel's criminal "gaza policy" in South Lebanon, continuing the wanton murder of 1000s of civilians under the guise of "they use children as shields". Well yeah, it's endless guerilla warfare and now hezb has drones. Diplomacy is the only way.

You can't really negotiate when one party is a religious fanatical death cult and the other one is Hezbollah.

New blackmail material in case Trump starts to turn on them?

Trump doesn't let Bibi bomb Lebanon and doesn't fight to the last American in Iran

> Trump doesn't let Bibi bomb Lebanon

Sure he does. They did it today!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0g8jymg92o

Trump doesn't let?

Trump is sitting in a chair in the corner of the room of any negotiation he's in. He's weak at best.

> sitting in a chair

More like sleeping in the chair

It's in the corner, and it's porcelain. But you get it. And people worship that.

combat is a dynamic situation, if you have no idea what its participants can/cant/will/wont do, you cant formulate prevailing tactics.

situational awareness is best when first hand, as someone may be lying to you, or may not even know what they are doing in the first place.

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