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I really like the idea and that it's eu-made a love it. A fee things I see with kagi which are useful and improvements:

- Hire a UI/UX person NOW! My parents and gf like using google and kagi because are easy to use.

- add the widgets like the football or the show the local store with the phone number asap. My gf is thinking about moving away from kagi because of this.

- the quick ai response is extremely useful.

- Indexing websites is super important. People doesnt know where to put the content in a website or how to make accessible. Many times i use google due to this fact.

- Make a family subscription.

- make it funny, easy to use and welcoming. The branding is SUPER important.

Good luck and I really wish you to succeed! Im paying for an account ;)

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> Uruky is a private search engine focused on personalization

> - Indexing websites is super important. People doesnt know where to put the content in a website or how to make accessible. Many times i use google due to this fact.

Is there a way to build a search engine that doesn't involve either building or accessing a index somehow? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, is this for the website builders or for the users, who the "indexing of websites" is super important? The "people doesn't know" part sounds like it's for website authors, but the last part makes it sound like the context is search engine users.

In the FAQ, they mention they don’t have an index, they just collect the results from other search engines.

Ok, so say they added their own website index then, how would that help with "People doesnt know where to put the content in a website or how to make accessible"?

Uh oh. Where is that? We do have our own index, Uruky Site Search!

How do I search the index? How big is it?

I went into settings, excluded every provider, and enabled "include uruky site search", but it still says "Providers used: Mojeek", and every other search I try shows no mention of the uruky index

It’s too small right now, so we don’t allow you to search it exclusively, yet. Eventually it should become a “proper” search provider once it reaches 100M urls or so.

On the settings page it appears that the index is disabled by default and not included in the ordering either. It's a bit confusing here!

It’s currently a tiny “indieweb” index, which is why it’s opt-in right now, and not big enough to be in the ordering, yet.

I refer to the fact that many websites don't have a proper way to search the content inside the website. For instance, many goverment websites have terrible accessibility and the data seems ofuscated.

Google solves me to search content in those websites

Thank you for your suggestions and support!

- Ouch. We get a lot of love for our UI/UX, which I guess just goes to show taste is personal. If you have any particular points of friction, we'd love to hear about them.

- Only Serper allows for this, so we're very hesitant. If other providers allowed it, we could definitely consider it.

- We won't have Generative AI, sorry.

- Could you clarify?

- Check out the interview I gave The Privacy Dad, I explain the problems for something like that.

- Roger!

Big plus for not doing unrequested AI stuff <3

Seeing the point on UI/UX got me curious as well and from a brief look I don't quite see where it is coming from, but maybe they will expand on it. Regarding their point about relatives loving Google/Kagi for usability: If you don't already do that, I believe it can be pretty eye-opening to just place some "tech-illiterate" person in front of your product and check if/where they struggle. There were lots of situations where I saw people struggling with steps I stopped thinking about, just because I was more familiar with the software. And while I have nothing to do with UI/UX myself, I am pretty sure that kind of paper cut is what tends to block any kind of broad adoption.

Thanks! Your point is quite valid and we do that. Unfortunately, the biggest problem with most "tech-illiterate" people we have is that they don't understand why they should care about privacy or what's "wrong" with AI tools in the first place.

I got the point. But in this case, you have a fairly low pricing (5€), therefore i guess either you want a side project, a small business in a familiar kind or to go worldwide adoption. The last case, you have to take "tech illiterate" people really seriously.

- the landing page looks good to me, but not to my mother for example. A slight difference in color, placing or anything is like a huge problem for her. - im sorry to hear thag. However this is being a deal breaker for my parents and gf :/ they use it A LOT! - many websites have terrible content placing and search features. But im forced to use them. I use google to get to that content.

> We won't have Generative AI, sorry.

You're taking a stance? In this economy?

This is a bug plus in my book, and it is, besides being Europe-based, the reason I've been donating to Vivaldi for the past 18 months. I signed up for Uruky just last week, but I sense I'll stick around for much longer. Please continue being awesome!

I think it all depends on what kind of customer they want to attract.

> Hire a UI/UX person NOW

I agree, the current site is too busy.

> add the widgets like the football or the show the local store with the phone number asap

Sounds like clutter to me

> the quick ai response is extremely useful.

Depends, I use Kagi because it doesn't have that (or it does, but allowed me to hide it, I don't remember anymore)

> make it funny, easy to use and welcoming

If I see another web site that "uh-oh!"s me the moment something doesn't work, I'm going to kill myself ;) The drive to be "funny" can very quickly turn into cringe-fest.

Kagi does have Quick AI response. It's hidden behind a button and will only automatically answer if the search inputs ends with a question mark (?).

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