Any image of your family you post will be scraped by Clearview AI, bypassing the restrictions that make it hard for you to create accounts, to create a worldwide facial recognition system.
I also know people who created accounts from scratch without needing a selfie while connecting exclusively through a VPN. (Only some VPNs, work apparently.)
Supposedly FB uses device ID tracking, so if you're picked for selfie ID on a device and try to create an alt, you'll be selfie-ID'd again.
Using a different browser on desktop solves the problem for desktop but not for mobile.
And so on. Basically it's doable, sometimes. And sometimes it isn't.
all banks contract with fly-by-night faceid providers who have zero oversight or provide no governance info anywhere.
Maybe we'll get there eventually? But you should be more wary about making such absolute claims.
But to get the money out? Oh no! We need a picture of your face! And there’s no option for going in person.
Unauthorized deposits aren't nearly as much of a concern as unauthorized withdrawals, right? I'd imagine that there are far fewer malicious actors that try to deposit money into random bank accounts than there are ones that try to withdraw money from random bank accounts.
> And there’s no option for going in person.
Won't an in-person bank also take pictures of you via security cameras? I don't really understand your objection here, could you elaborate?
It seems like all expectation of privacy and anonymity evaporated in the last 5 years.
It is all but guaranteed for Internet-based facial recognition services.
Hacked facial recognition data already is reportedly being used by scammers to not only bypass bank security but also to impersonate people to target their loved ones.
There is no lasting security gain by providing a selfie. There is a lasting security and privacy loss, however.
Even back in 2014, malware was coming out that steals facial recognition data directly from smart phones themselves.
https://www.theregister.com/security/2024/02/15/stolen-ios-u...
The GDPR isn't a silver bullet.
Additionally - furtherance of facial recognition technology would impact travelling to foreign jurisdictions.
One of the most common ways foreign travellers get flagged when travelling internationally is for social media posts made under their own name that their destination country's government may not like. Traditionally if you've kept yourself pseudo-anonymous, you've largely been safe. But if we get to a point where pseudo-anonymous accounts are associated with pictures of people's faces, it will become significantly less pleasant to travel internationally for a lot more people.
Having just gone through the annual KYC checks required by my bank/s I don't think this opinion stands universally.
Can also confirm to open an account I need to provide a live selfie and verifiable government ID.
As always, the goal in convincing others is to take someone from their current understanding and bring them closer to yours. You can't get there if you don't start the topic at their current understanding of it.
This is a requirement for two different banks I have, very likely for the rest as well.
Doing the live selfie route I don't need to provide tons of other documents.
For banks without the live selfies I need police certified docs for ID and address.
And the big thing for KYC every year is proof of current residence.
What is the "annual KYC check"? Your bank is afraid you became someone else during the year or what?
WHAT? No KYC? what are those banks?! I have friends in South America who would pay really good money (cash) to know
Who aren't flawless of course, but selfies have been easily circumvented with photos or video game cameras.
Hell, at one point we had to implement age verification for a Japanese tobacco product website via a 3rd party vendor, I just used the wiki page's picture of a Japanese ID to test it, worked fine.