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But given the actual thread, which has some "flaming" but also many dry and serious comments, and how you describe it as incredibly unhinged while speculation about someone's motivation (looking for projects that might have used AI, versus being dismayed that something that used to be stable no longer is), and how you would say none of that to any of those individuals while musing about how they are just looking for easy targets, it just seems like projection to me. You declare the critics as witches that don't even get to make their own case, your high level smearing of them totally suffices.

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I'd look again, there's a (now deleted, but quoted) comment of violence being threatened (and drawn??) against the maintainers.

I didn't say the flaming and and hyperbole etc. is okay, obviously threats aren't okay a million times over, but saying they're all so unhinged is using the over-the-top stuff to dismiss the valid criticism, expressed in valid ways.

If I said something nasty stuff about the critics in that thread, about how they're suffering from AI derangement syndrome and the things I want to do to them, could they then use that to dismiss any criticism of them, and talk about how those AI bros are all violent lunatics? Of course not, and that goes both ways.

Oh no don't get me wrong I don't think you're tacitly endorsing it, I just mean it's probably gotten worse since you last looked, from all sides.

Fair enough, and thanks. It probably would have helped if the initial post were a more level headed (and polite) collection of regressions, maybe discussions/investigations of them, basically things that some people posted on HN and in the GH thread.

But something with a different tone got posted first, and now it all goes there. Which sucks, but using either types of comments to dismiss (or defend) the other is kind of pernicious. We don't have to "agree with one side" in bulk, in fact that is rarely correct I'd say. (I'm not saying this as if you disagree, just re-iterating I guess)

> they are just looking for easy targets

I mean, they are. They’re not harassing Linus or linux maintainers because that would get shut down quickly. Instead they brigade the rsync GitHub issues.

> You declare the critics as witches

Did you read a single thing I wrote?

That's rich.

> being dismayed that something that used to be stable no longer is

You just ignore that, repeat your claim as if that helps. "I mean, they are" -- no, I mean, they actually genuinely literally are not.

You us what everyone in that group has as motivation, and that it's to achieve something like sexual satisfaction, is not a description of that thread -- I can read -- so it's coming from you.

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