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It's an obstacle when hiring people who are currently enjoying stable employment. Probably fine for juniors, but not for experienced people with families and whatnot.

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That is directly addressed in the article.

Not exactly, if I am thinking of leaving my job and I have responsibilities, I will not even entertain taking a leap of faith, resigning from my current position and grinding for 3 month in a super-competitive environment for 1/10 of a chance of getting a better job.

I'll talk to recruiters and interview at other companies on my spare time, as before.

My point was that this perspective is not lost on the author of that article, as he directly addresses it.

What am I missing then, he talks about multi-days "campfires" contract work as a replacement for the interview process. Maybe I can get a week of holiday on a short notice but nobody will be able to do that 5 times in a month if they are actively looking.

And even if someone could get time off drive times a month to work "provisionally" at a different job, I can't imagine they'd typically be as productive hopping back and forth at either of them compared to devoting all their time to one. Sure, maybe the prospective employer would be circumspect enough to judge someone based on the correct signals of stuff like whether they're asking the right questions, showing capacity to learn and grow into the role in the long run, etc. rather than strictly judging their output, but being smarter about what you're measuring instead of blindly checking off boxes is also an option in traditional interviews, and plenty of companies still don't do that, so why would the expectation that the lazy approach of only measuring results wouldn't end to happening with this as well?

He addressed it as “job market is in such a bad shape, so perhaps even seniors won’t have any other option”, which might be true, but is sad nonetheless.

It’s awfully convenient for old heads who enjoyed the insane run up of the last decade and a half that are in plush situation to then say “oh it might suck for you now, too bad!”

Good for you to make all the hay when the sun shone? Fuck the future generation, let’s make it even harder for them with these insane interview ideas.

Yes, it says "hope your competitors randomly decide to fire their best engineers for some reason" (worded as 'ends up between gigs')

Where? Please point it out! All he says is there will be more desperate people on the market in future and because they're desperate they'll have to accept trial work. But that's not answering the objection that people who do still have stable jobs in that world won't want to interview at your company if you require them to do a stint of trial work first. And those people include a lot of desirable candidates.

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