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I never really used the Antigravity IDE, but had it installed. The update also made me do a double take and wonder what the hell was going on.

It seems like Google is hitting the reset button on the product they call "Antigravity", existing users be damned. Fine, if you've never installed or used the previous version before... but for existing users the "bait and switch" is incredibly disorientating.

My take is they saw the market size for a general agentic tool as being larger and more significant than a specialised IDE. It shows a pretty large lack of respect for users in the later group though.

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You can't use Antigravity 2.0 on Windows with WSL. There is simply no way to connect to WSL. The agent can't run any Linux commands.

Also the Antigravity CLI doesn't remember your credentials in WSL. It asks you to log in every time you run the program.

And after 4 chat sessions, my ~/antigravity-server folder now takes up 4 GB.

Should be usable with ssh port forwarding?

It only stores credentials in the keyring, so if you have no dbus keyring service running it just silently won't remember them.

They could just call it anything else and left the existing user alone. I mean they have gemini CLI, which I would say a better product.

Gemini CLI is being sunsetted in mid-June and replaced by Antigravity.

https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transi...

I've mostly avoided the frustration of dealing with google's product rug pulls over the years by never getting hooked on a non-gmail product.

Alas, I now feel the sting of disappointment.

In this case it's the usual Google product rug-pull plus the insane rate of AI tool churn.

Belated follow up: I was able to install the agy cli directly without the IDE (perhaps this was a change made in the interim).

I ran it last night and it was just fine as a drop-in replacement for my usage. Disappointment averted with minimal effort on my part (it helps that my typical workflow is pretty mundane/close to the defaults).

I assume this means a CLI tool is no longer covered by a Gemini subscription?

I think that's what everyone is going to think.

Hot take: At least they're ripping the bandaid now instead of stringing users along and eventually abandoning it like they normally do.

> I mean they have gemini CLI

Uhhh, about that :)

Gemini CLI (the open source cli) is being deprecated, and the recommended replacement is Antigravity CLI (which supposedly comes with the new Antigravity, not the IDE). shrug. Surely this will be maintained long term...

Oh, but you can only install the new antigravity CLI by first installing and authenticating via the IDE.

Will they make it work headless before the June deadline when they turn off gemini-cli? I guess we'll see...

[Edited to add: danielbln below is correct, this appears to just be stale documentation for antigravity-cli, it can be used completely headless now.]

Just today I installed the CLI version of antigravity (agy) and have been using it as a headless subagent from within Claude, so uh this works today?

Right above the CLI download link on that page, there's a warning icon with "Authenticate with Antigravity or Antigravity IDE before using the CLI."

Ok, I guess this is outdated then because I did what I said I did.

Ah!

You're right, I just re-tested on my server and was able to get it to work now. Thank you! Does appear to just be stale documentation.

And how do you get this to work exactly? I keep getting variations of "Missing required parameter: redirect_uri" in the OAuth flow.

The solutions proposed by Gemini and Google's AI summaries all hallucinate agy subcommands that don't exist, hilariously.

Edit: after bouncing around several GitHub threads, I realized that the agy TUI framework is wrapping the URL in a way that causes spaces to be inserted where the URL wraps. That's hilarious.

There's a link on the downloads page to a standalone version of the CLI

Google makes no sense. They can make a good product from time to time but as soon as people like it, they shut it down. for me personally (google podcasts, google calendar with the goals feature) the old assistant that was able to do stuff like set alarms and gemini now can't

That's the issue with Google, no specific user group is significant enough for Google to care

Classic Google problem: nobody gets promoted for maintaining anything. Promotions require doing Something Big. Convince everybody that your new feature is so much better than the old experience that it’s worthy of nuking the old experience, and that’s evidence that your New Thing is more worthy of you getting promoted. That’s how shit like this happens at Google.

Sometimes I wonder if they even realize they have users...

Jules is still alive.

https://jules.google.com

> Jules is not yet available in your region.

Which somewhat ironically can import from github but not directly from aistudio..

It's a little crazy they still depend on microsoft as an intermediate between all their tools.

This is what happens when your engineering company is run by warring factions of tech illiterate business people rather than engineers.

>Note on Plan Availability

>Paid Jules plans are accessed via a Google AI Plans subscription, which is currently available only for individual Google Accounts (ending in @gmail.com).

>We are actively working on providing upgrade paths for other user types. In the meantime, If you are a business power user and need more access to Jules, please fill out this interest form and we will get back to you.

I filled out the enterprise form for GWorkspace 18 months ago.

I trie to use it, it's actually really bad IMO. It's very slow and often completely misunderstands my requirements

when people start to use it more they will shut it down

Pissing off the segment of people most likely to take offense and try to take revenge seems pretty dumb.

No wonder they are losing massively to Huawei in several markets. Mobile marketshare is probably an indicator of some kind of their future prospects.

> Mobile marketshare is probably an indicator of some kind of their future prospects.

I don't like Google either, but I don't think this is a fair comparison.

It's easy for anyone to beat Google in China when the state has decided to block their servers.

They are declining in market share in several countries. Notably multiple ASEAN countries, Russia and Iran (though that is forced), and so on.

Edit: Probably the high end non apple market in nearly all African countries too, but idk if there is reliable data for those.

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