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While that may be the case it’s hard to make this claim when: - Anthropic settled a similar case - Anna didn’t show up in court

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Showing up is a trap for Anna - who doesn't have 5 billion dollars to settle.

Justice should not depend on whether the aggrieved appears in court. That's a structural weakness of US law.

is there a country where if you don't show up to court you don't lose by default?

Exactly, how can you credibly mount a defence if you're unwilling to appear? Your defence is that, yours.

You cant mount defence if you dont have tons of money. If you are not super rich and can stay anonymous, showing up to money combat is just dumb.

Supposing that to be true... Does justice depend on what every other country is doing?

The legal system is a joke which received the amount of engagement it deserves.

As well as their domestic and national security apperatus, actually. Their own citizens are being used to propagate brain-computer interfaces amongst their own people.

Uh, aren't you confirming his opinion with that? After all, Anna doesn't have the money to fight this in court

No. Anthropic fought and paid $1.5 billion in settlement and agreed to delete all the copyrighted material.

I'm confused here, how is this not even more of a confirmation?

Essentially: have funny amounts of money and the law ceases to matter. Or don't, and be squashed by the right holders

$1.5 billion is more than $19.5 million though.

Also if I were to guess the damages because of sci hub is higher than Anthropic training the models. I don't think I know anyone who didn't bought a book because the summary is available or they can ask about it to AI.

Delete? Wasn’t that material already used to train models?

All AI companies should be forced to re-train their models without the offending materials, and this should also extend to all LLMs distilled from models exposed to copyrighted works. Also cover code under licences such as GPL as well. Not to mention patents and designs. This whole LLM business is a giant IP laundromat.

One of the best things about it IMO -- or we'd be spending the next hundred years waiting for copyright reform

well i guess its copyright not distill-statistical-model-from-it-rights.

"Deleting" data they already ingested is meaningless.

Anthropic knows they could just pay off the aggrieved party.

The operators of Anna's know they will go to prison.

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