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It’s going to be a long road, but I think as LLMs and their offspring create more and more convincing arguments for silicon consciousness we will conclude that consciousness is about as real as humours, and we’ve all been p-zombies this whole time.

Maybe the literary creature shoe should have started on the other foot, and sent us in search of proof that we are or are not p-angels. That at least puts the burden of proof on the compatibilists where it belongs.

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I don't think people will ever admit that they're not that special. We already know that animals are "conscious" and still treat them with disdain.

Dubious. We will just see logical vs physical space once again and move on with our lives. I think we are already mostly there as a society.

I don’t know why this is a block in philosophy let alone computer science. We experience it frequently and have a fundamental theorem about it.

Plenty of movies about it as well like the Matrix.

How can you even argue that we’re p-zombies? I know that I’m not. I assume others aren’t. Maybe you are?

From a non-dual perspective either nobody is a p-zombie or everybody is a p-zombie. I think the trajectory of LLMs will be that consciousness sensations are abundant and low value, and that will give all the non-dual territory over to the illusionists (who now have a tangible example to point to.) Emergence won't be disproven but it'll be about as interesting as a penny stock. Everyone else is going to go to ground as a dualist and argue for some entirely new unreachable aspect of human exceptionalism, but they'll have ceded qualia as they did for souls. If I had to guess, they'll focus on embodied cognition because building high-fidelity bodies still seems really hard.

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