Regular solar panels work well but are an eyesore on a nice home.
Americans come up will all kinds of ridiculous reasons for not using clean energy.
1) Nuclear is dangerous, even though it has the safest profile of all energy: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/death-rates-from-energy-p...
2) Also, we are now bird lovers! Wind turbines killed 2 dozen birds (but cats kill billions of birds). Wind is also an eyesore. Ruins the views from $_.
3) Solar is an eyesore.
4) Electric cars don't work in the cold. (lets ignore Norway, a tropical island)
5) Range anxiety, because I might drive from Florida to Wyoming.
1. I support nuclear, really stupid not to use anything else. Blame politicians and the hippies.
2. Yeah wind imo is useless, and it's more than 2 dozen. Quite high, I don't think comparing kills to the top predator is a win. Also windmills are in raptor's paths, generally cats don't eat raptors. Noisy and ugly too.
3. Solar is nice, will use it as aux, but panels and batteries don't come close to a propane generator. Different use-cases.
4. I own a cybertruck and a trailboss, but it's Texas, can't really speak to cold weather ev experiences.
5. Owning an EV I know how they work, anxiety no issue, just hop free SCs and enjoy the ride.
Bonus: Garage doors can look stupid if it's the entire front of the house, like those mcmansions, but can be subtle with a long ranch house for example.
Solar panels always look awful on a roof.
It's the equivalent of 100 radio towers crowding the area. Kind of takes you out of nature.
And I don't have a CT because it's pretty. I have it because it's functional and so fucking cool.
Great that you like your car, windmills and solar panels are also functional and fucking cool, so I don't know why you've bought up them being ugly. You're happy to drive an ugly car, but draw the line at looking at ugly roofs?
A few select spots for nuclear would be ideal ofc.
No I don't buy things based on whether they are "ugly" or not.
Solar panels don't make any financial sense in my scenario, would take half of their lifespan to break even on the energy savings.
But yeah tastes are different. Personally I find the CT to be a cool look overall, albeit different, so I get why you are so fixated on them.
I'm not fixated on the cybertruck, you bought it up unprompted. Though I do find it uglier than most cars, I think all of those enormous American "trucks" are an eyesore, and I hope to never see one in person.
I said I use solar, just think the panels are ugly on a roof. That's subjective also, it's not the reason I don't have them, cost is.
Windmills are useless because of the amount of maintenance, the resources/carbon used to make them, lack of recyclability (huge blade graveyards), and most importantly, it's not a base load. Them being ugly is just the cherry on top. They are useless when you could just use nuclear.
Yeah you keep wanting to bring it back up though, it wasn't unprompted, the GP mentioned EV and range. I was giving a duality example of owning both vehicle types. You focused on the CT for some odd reason. As did another person.
> 4. I own a cybertruck
Mind if I ask why?
Feels like a space ship and I love it more than my ICE truck.
And yeah, realized that would be downvoted. Fun to break the bubble here with other opinions though.
I tend to think garages are an eyesore, and yet, basically everyone (including me) wants one included with their home.
40% of Australian households have rooftop solar. You get used to the look very quickly, and well-installed ones look perfectly fine.
I know they are on every second house, but gun to my head I could not tell you how many have it on my street.
Next best thing aesthetically are full-roof racks, where one face of the roof is 100% covered in panels. Nowadays you just have to select the right panel and you can make it tile the plane perfectly.
Thanks for sharing
On the average suburban tract home in my corner of the USA, panels are no more ugly than the shingled roofs they sit atop.
Tiles on my house are at least 150yrs old
Also even if you personally don't live that long, it does affect the value. For example a 99 year lease on a property is considerably less valuable than a 999 year lease, even though very few people live more than 99 years.
Given shingles last between 20-30 years someone's got to pay the cost of re-roofing on a regular basis throughout the house's lifetime
Then you've got the added maintenance, flammability and other downsides of a shingle roof to take into account too
About three weeks because I didn't do it all at once, an 11/12 pitch is tiring to work on. One week per side of stripping/waterproofing, then a couple weekends of shingling.
Edit: the stripping took a week from having two layers of shingles, first layer was cedar than asphalt.
Took a day to take all the tiles off the front, add insulation, membrane and batten it. Then another half day or so to put the original tiles back on
Back took slightly longer because we had some alterations done but it was just over a week in total effort
In some areas when big enough hail or storms goes through a town 1 or 2 crews will jump on the insurance payouts and take the low bid if they can do them all at once. And within a week or two at worst the entire neighborhood or small town is reshingled.
That and saving $20 000 or so in labour. I was quoted $8000 just to remove cedar shingles not asphalt as well (off-hand by a buddy). This is in $CAD.
As well as doing a better job than most of the roofs I've redone, whole lotta hack jobs on roofs since you'll never see the problem or deal with it till the contractor is long gone.