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Always a yawn when someone is too wet behind the ears to see the two sides of the same coin. This has been going on since I've been alive to witness it.

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I'm also tired of someone saying both sides are the same, as if this justifies anything either side does. When we are obviously worse off now under one particular side.

Yeah, both sides have problems. And we are caught in the same systems. The sides are not equally bad.

They are equally bad because they are actually the same people playing both sides. Do you think Palantir is conservative and Netflix is liberal? Neither actually care about either of these things. The differences are a basic misdirection playing to natural inclinations to control the population I would argue all the way to illusions of choice. And the sooner people grow out of their public school educations, the sooner it'll change.

Indeed, how could it not have been more obvious than when Biden made it illegal for the railroad workers to strike in Dec. 2022. The sides are the same when it comes to an actual threat to the status quo.

Typically I would agree.

Biden and Bush were nearly identical.

But this time around, things seem a bit more 'near the end'. The president is taking jumbo jet sized bribes, manipulating markets. Literally doing more self harm than an enemy agent could ever accomplish. Like the country could really collapse any day.

Forget free speech. I literally am a little scared just posting here. People are being rounded up. Even with a fake name, I'm sure Palantir can put the pieces together.

Yeah, shitcoins and fake product launches are new territory. Some of the others were a little more circumspect in graft or more likely it was others driving the larger graft to more careful benefactors. This Iran tarpit really blew open the reality of Trump the man: he is a sock puppet, and I think his graft is probably something like an O(1) problem while the republic faces an O(n^m) problem including unmitigated foreign influence.

It makes me ponder an interesting philosophical question about raking a pyramid scheme along proximal real vs perceived valuation. I guess the damage is all the same, but things get more flagrant the longer it goes on.

Netflix are not putting out manfiestos that read like a monologue from a movie villain, at least

Nobody would bat an eye if they did though

What does Netflix stand for? What lines do they draw?

> This has been going on since I've been alive to witness it.

Modern billionaires have more wealth (adjusted for inflation) and therefore more power than any human being has ever had before in history.

Do you like feudalism? Because that's how you get feudalism.

You're right, we've previously had enormous power concentrated in few hands. And it resulted in such a terrible society that we spent a century fighting wars to build a better system. And Thiel et al want to bring us right back to the old way, and they might succeed.

You misunderstand my point because I probably agree with you. But feudalism in the USA goes back to the beginning, and no other country is a particular exemplar although you can find a few social democracies that are or were functional while the population was largely homogeneous.

You are misinformed about the relative power. The industrialists eclipsed the current technocrats in every way imaginable, several of them had whole number percent of GDP level of wealth. Musk is the only one that comes close in modern times, yet a lot of this is in notes on largely speculative enterprises while the industrialists controlled the literal engines of society. If Palantir or Google or Amazon collapse, it will make a dent in the stock market for a couple years but it doesn't matter the same as losing your national industrial base. So they are kind of sock pupating their own stakes.

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