What on earth is the social component of GitHub? I assume I’m missing what’s useful to people here as it keeps getting brought up, but what is it? Is it the stars on a repo? Are people doing something else big with all of this?
At a push you could have the same thing massively more spread out using GitHub purely as auth.
Look, you are the one that opened with "What on earth is the social component of GitHub?". What's the semantic function of that specific construction if not being completely ironic, like you decided I was wrong before engaging?
> if you don’t want to engage don’t
I am engaging, you just don't like that I'm not spelling it out. This is perfectly within the community guidelines.
> Totally different thing
It's just the same thing, you both are ignoring how important convenience is.
All you've pointed to is devs working together and people filing bugs. All that requires is auth, no? Is that it? Is an SSO button really this enormous hurdle?
> It's just the same thing,
Saying dropbox is irrelevant because all end users could just "build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem." is not the same as saying "what is the social aspect of github?".
Closer is what I've argued elsewhere, which is that multiple different hosts running (something like) gitea selling cloud based storage as a service would be extremely close to github for end users. And it would be identical for what you've talked about wouldn't it?
> you both are ignoring how important convenience is.
The convenience of what, specifically? Not having to click an SSO button on a new website?
Collaboration is a form of socialization. GitHub made a social network on top of a SVN to create a forge that people can interact with each other creating issues, pull requests, reviewing and commenting on them, engaging in discussions, forking and improving upon each others works... These are not "just auth" and it's not something git solves by itself. I really don't know how to make this clearer either, sorry. Maybe it's this is the kind of thing that you see it and you get it or you don't, I don't know. For me and apparently for lots of people in this thread that makes sense.
All these other services have what you're talking about, and the only cross-repo/org work I can see here is:
* Aligned accounts (person X on one service is person Y on github), if you want that continuity across services
* Forking
And the whole forking/branching/merging side is handled by raw git.
That's why I've been asking what githubs huge centralisation gets us. It has a UI and features that are useful, great, those exist in other projects too, so what is the stickiness?
Edit: I've written UAC in both my posts by accident, but I actually meant UGC: User generated content.
I find repos because of search engines, links from project pages, links from package managers, hn, all external sources. If it’s from linked issues that’s user generated and can easily link off site (and often do).
Are you following users and finding repos like that by seeing that they commit to? Having GitHub recommend repos?
> What is the social component bringing people there?
We've answered that again and again, pull requests, discussions, comments, following people. These bring people value. There isn't much more to it. And these aren't "just auth over cross repos". You reached the ocean here and you are still thinking it's just water, expecting it to be something greater. This is just it. That's the social component and the value it brings to the community.
[†] I occasionally have AI write one-off bullshit too, so I'm not casting stones. It's just overwhelmed the discovery signal with noise.
GitHub is also somewhat entangled with junior hiring in compsci, meaning there's a tangible economic incentive in building a hireable profile that a recruiter might like. (Or at least that is a widespread belief.)
None of this has much to do with git, the VCS tool, nor is GH-as-a-social-network objectively very important, but it's natural to place outsized importance on a community in which one is active, and there's a significant overlap in the HN commentariat and GH users. So you'll probably hear more about the claimed social utility of GH here than in the real world.
Hope this helps clarify what people are talking about. :)