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Really controversial but my honest opinion: That's because programming languages, and its natural language counterpart, too, are nowadays increasing and more likely in becoming a political tool, rather than itself being a tech tool.

I observed this through observation of the attacks to Rust due to the huge presence of LGBT people.

Now while I'm pretty much straight myself, I don't reject LGBT people and don't want to partake in identity politics.

I just want things that works no matter what background you have, yet there are some people attacking Rust because of its inclusiveness nature.

And just like Linux is being perceived as nerdy and geeky and "gaming socks ready", the tokenization of things, and there attaching political meanings to it, are quickly coming to everything, so perhaps I'm too general here as well.

Let's say it is not political, but definitely adding more meanings to its technical origin and nature

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Why we have discussions about sexual orientation on programming languages? Could this really go any worse?

I won't say it is just because of sexual orientation, but more because of the identity politics associated with it.

Not just like "what kind of gender people I like" this kind of oversimplification but it's more about your attitude towards gender stereotypes and roles, for that's what I saw in a more deep connotation.

> I observed this through observation of the attacks to Rust due to the huge presence of LGBT people.

Never seen that before, but then again I'm not in the rust community.

> don't want to partake in identity politics.

If you write Rust, or let AI write rust, do you have to partake in the identity politics?

The internet is full of memes and jokes on how shitty Java and Java Script. Yet it came never up at work. Never stopped me from writing java.

Just like Emacs vs Vim, I'm just using Nano. Never had any discussion IRL. And at work everyone uses Idea.

It's hard for me to see writing Rust somehow gets you into partaking in identity politics. Did that actually happen to you, or something that you are afraid of?

> Never seen that before, but then again I'm not in the rust community.

As a straight guy, number of times people attacked Rust for catering to "that crowd", "DEI-language", and "woke mind-virus" has been pretty huge on Xitter.

Which is always hilarious to me, since language itself doesn't have anything offensive.

> If you write Rust, or let AI write rust, do you have to partake in the identity politics?

Answer is of course no. However by choosing to write it you'll be perceived as anti-Zig, anti-C, pro-woke, etc.

Fascinating.

> However by choosing to write it you'll be perceived as anti-Zig, anti-C, pro-woke, etc.

I don't even know what zig or C is. (Please don't tell me) Edit: Oh, C the language. From context I thought it was short for something on the anti-woke site :)

But who is checking what language you are vibe coding at? And does it matter to you that those people perceive you as anti-zig?

There is probably someone on Xitter who thinks me not using VIM is just plane wrong, but that has no influence on me. To be completely honest, this all sounds like a non-issue.

I mean there is also an anti-ai crowed (r/antiai) but who cares what people on the internet think?

Most of the attacks on Rust, I have seen, have nothing in common what people are implementing Rust.

It has a lot in common with the fact Rust is very low level language, a direct C++ competitor, and many people use it for apps that could be easily implemented in much higher languages and run fast enough.

A driver or kernel extension in Rust? No problem. A todolist SaaS startup with no users? It's better to use Rails, Django, or Laravel for that.

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