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The back and forth required to flesh out requirements and ideas just takes too long to express well in an email.
And the small talk? A small price to pay for having all of your questions answered in a timely manner. Plus, it gets me better at interacting with people, which is always a winning proposition.
Example, if I just need to confirm a Yes or No to someone, email is good. Why waste time getting on the phone, making conversation just because it will be rude to just sticking to the point etc. However, if I have to negotiate something or agree/decide on something, better do phone call if face to face not possible. Email is the last thing u want unless u like to see your inbox flooded with back and forth agreements/disagreements/whatifs/buts.
This is not the problem with emails; it's the problem with people. Back in the nineties I had internet access just in the mornings and my friend, with whom I was working on some project, only in evenings. We each sent one letter (email) a day, yet we had great conversations and were able to decide things.
How was that possible? We just put time and effort into each and every one email. Reading and replying to an email was an hour or two long activity - every point we wanted to make we first thought through and frequently we included possible counterarguments along with what we first wanted to say. We were actively helping each other with understanding and thinking, because if something was misunderstood or too hard to understand (relatively) quickly we just wasted entire day or more.
You don't have to mail back and forth each other so many times. You just need to think about what you read and about what you write. And trust the other person(s) to do the same.
And this is where your supposition falls apart in my real world. In all of my encounters by email, people do not spend the time to answer all of your questions in great detail. Most of the time, they will answer one question, and then with only superficial detail. This is what leads to the "one question per email rule" [1], and hours of back and forth which could be resolved with a single phone call lasting only a few minutes.
I think in my time in corporations, I've run into one person capable of maintaining high quality emails where we didn't have to use calls - one out of hundreds. It's the main reason I've had to develop my own interpersonal skills.
I'm always open to the possibility that the problem was on my end, but when I receive one sentence answers routinely from people by email, I don't really think it is.
I know this. And I suffer from this. It seems like the problem is not with you at all - it's what I wrote many times already: people generally loose ability to read and write.
These days I exchange emails with very few people - probably four, maybe the fifth one appears sometimes. I had a possibility to place myself in such a position that all of them I chose myself. They are all capable of good written communication. It took me many years and hundreds, if not thousands, of tries to do that.
The fact that fewer and fewer people are able to write coherently and understand what they read is maddeningly sad. I can't do anything about it. I can only distance myself from it, as far as my current position allows. I can't do this to an extent that the OP can and I have very different reasons, but I do my best.
Saying goodbye and hanging up is another thing we introverts are terrible at too.
The back and forth required to flesh out technical requirements and specific details just takes too long to express well in a phone call. Forget pseudocoding. And the small talk? A tedious reminder that solving my technical problem involves providing emotional support to another human who shouldn't need it.
That's a ridiculous statement. Some people can better articulate their thoughts if they speak it out loud, and some people can better articulate their thoughts if they write them out. Calling it an "inability" and "unwillingness" is just inconsiderate and stupid.
If I want something from you I'll buy you a dinner and stare you deeply in the eyes if you prefer that. But if you want something from me, please write an email.
If you need to talk loud to articulate your thoughts then place a teddy bear on your desk and speak to him as you are writing email to those who prefer emails.
Personally I hate listening to "oh" and "um" as the person who just called me tries to decide what he wanted to tell me.
Inability to write is more than just inability - it's a disability that often comes bundled with "tl;dr". Some people can better articulate their thoughts when speaking and that's fine: just speak to yourself while preparing to write the letter.
I can understand the need to feel close to another human being, but it's generally what SO and such are for. And believe me, she is much more attractive than you and I don't want to be your therapist and I don't want to make you feel good. It's not my purpose and not my duty, don't try to coerce me to do this, because I won't.
The truth is that written communication requires much more mental discipline and preparation than verbal one. And that's good. Very good. Taking the time to actually think through your problem as a preparation for writing can well cause you to discover solution on your own, saving us both a lot of time.
There are situations when phone/skype call is more efficient - mainly when we need to have a short feedback loop, when we're brainstorming or on the other hand when the issue is really minor and you have no access to IM at the moment. The former case - ok, I'll talk, but send me an outline about what we're going to talk, before the call. And then stick to it, don't digress and don't talk about your cat (I love cats!). If you can't do any of those, you're just hyperactive person and you lack any mental discipline and quite frankly I don't want to talk to you. The latter case - well, ok, it's going to take 30 seconds at most, so I don't mind at all, I probably can recover and be back to work in five minutes or so.
Ok, sorry - I probably overreacted here, but that is because I read the article and then the comments there and that was such an awful experience. So don't take this personally, please, my anger is directed towards all the people who mistake their inability to write or emotional immaturity for something else.
In our experience, having a 'quick chat' rarely if ever leads to business. Most people know what they want already and don't need a call to confirm and/or waste each other's time.
As an occasional angel investor, I actually use a variation of that filter as well. Out of politeness, entrepreneurs will offer to have a call with me to talk me through their business. I tell them no call is necessary, they have better things to do with their time. If someone insists on a phone call without at least trying to see if we can accomplish what's needed over email, it's a no go for me.
Thankfully, just about every early-stage entrepreneur I've encountered has no issues with this approach. They prefer it.
It's not always the inability to put things in writing or plain lazyness that makes some people pick up the phone instead of firing off an email or text. Some people's brains have an easier time developing ideas in a conversation and you may miss out on valuable opportunities if you dismiss them. You could hire or partner up with someone who likes to chat.
That's why video-chat programs like Skype help immensely with my phone anxiety.
So no need to assume that those who despise the phone also dislike face-to-face interactions.
There's something about phone calls that just makes me anxious and unhappy.
This post reads more like a personal observation of social anxiety and the maladaptive behaviors borne of it.
I actually feel sorry for him because something so human and natural causes so much anxiety.
But in MY case I simply offer another point of view. Take it at face value and save the speculation for the Mars probe news :-)
I respect Dharmesh enormously. I am nowhere near his level of anything, and no one has any reason to listen to me, but I still have to say it: if you want to make money running your own business and can't afford to hire a salesperson, unless you have a uniquely geeky clientelle you need to learn to talk on the phone. Furthermore, learn to enjoy it. It's very doable, even for introverts like us.
(FWIW, I strongly suspect that Dharmesh is very good at talking on the phone, even if he hates it, both because I've seen his BoS videos and because it is extremely rare for people to succeed in the way he has without being excellent verbal communicators. He'd be better at it if he got past his mental block, but he doesn't need to because he has hired an excellent sales team.)
Also "disruptive" startups that enter other realms are going to have problems if they are adverse to phone communications. For example, if you want to do a food startup and work with farms, you are probably going to need to hire an old-school phone-loving sales person to help you if you are adverse to phones because many farmers are pretty much the opposite of this article. No call, no business for a lot of them. Many don't communicate by email at all. It is very frustrating for those of us used to working in tech, but that's how it is right now.
I much rather prefer: "I'll make time for a quick phone call, but I only have X minutes for it." (5 minutes? Does not have to be a long time). Stick with the time limit.
The first thing to say in the phone call is "This may be the last phone call we have because [...]". That's better than coming off as some eccentric whose most memorable quality is that he does not do phone calls. As opposed to whatever you want the most-remembered thing about you is.
Just an opinion.
In theory, I think you're right. In practice, just the thought of trying to do what you are suggesting sounds awfully unpleasant -- even more unpleasant than actually taking the call.
But yeah, It's all subjective.
I think though, that setting a time limit as the first thing in the call is far better than saying "I must go in two minutes" in the middle of a call. At least the other party knows their time is limited.
But like I said, it's subjective and you certainly have a right to handle it as you wish :-)
And vice versa. They love their own emails too.
As a fellow introvert, I am constantly trying to decide when to push myself out of my comfort zone (because it would be good for my career), and when I should just accept the way that I am and seek to add value in ways that I am most comfortable.
I'd love to see Dharmesh write about how he came to the decision of where to draw that line; e.g. phone calls are out, but public speaking is in. A takeaway from this article could be "don't try to be something you're not", but I feel that its a bit more complicated than that based on what I (think I) know about him.
As for public speaking, it's actually a fairly scripted and controlled situation. A good middle-ground would probably be something like leading a table-top RPG game, though for me that's already in the realms of fantasies, and I'm pretty sure I'm doing pretty well all things considered.
Anyway, the point is: some of us have our special needs. Some people need extra control over conversations due to their inherent vulnerability. It's not just introversion, it's often anxieties and social disorders. I'm still a pretty great coder that can get along with a team of living, breathing people, and deal with a stand-up every day, but an unannounced meeting — not so much.
Have reached out to Matt at The Oatmeal offering to donate $500 to his favorite charity -- but I'm open to do doing whatever he thinks is right.
Although it doesn't excuse it -- I did link to the original comic, mentioned Matt and The Oatmeal by name, and linked EVERY individual image back to the original comic. I didn't mean to not give credit for the original work.
What's your favorite culture good for if you can't cite it as you make a point.
People tend to get picky over everything when they strongly disagree with you.
I also bristle at business calls, or calls from anyone I don't adore.
But because I'm an introvert, I love the phone for some real good undistracted one-on-one conversation with dear friends.
I prefer phone to hanging out in-person. I have a social window of about an hour where I'm into it, then my tolerance fades fast. When you're on the phone, an hour is a good long conversation. But in-person, an hour is so short, it rarely feels worth the travel time.
My best friends are in London, Minnesota, Singapore, LA, SF, Portland, NYC, Texas, Taiwan, and New Zealand. (I move around a lot. And many of my friends are touring musicians.) Phone is the only way we keep in touch. The best, deepest, most life-changing conversations I've had are by phone.
I think it's because I'm an introvert, and like low-stimulation environments, that the phone keeps everything focused on the conversation itself.
1) I can relate to this first point, but at the same time it isn't like it's impossible to have long or in-depth conversations on the phone. If you find phone calls at random times distracting just set a time and date, or tell them to call you back later. Also, in this day and age phones that support voicemail are everywhere; if they leave you a message you can think of a reply for a couple of hours and then call them back when you're ready.
2) Things like small talk don't have to be awkward. I'll agree that most small talk feels "fake," but that's because it's used to assess your mood. You don't have to pretend to be interested in the weather on Saturday or that baseball game last night. Making small talk is a difficult skill to learn, but again, you don't actually have to care or devote and thought to it. Asking how your day has been going is just common courtesy.
I'm not going to address the rest of his points as they're personal problems, but if you limit yourself to one form of communication you're going to limit yourself in a bunch of other ways, too.
To me I've seen way too many email chains deteriorate to the point where someone finally steps up and says let's have a call to hash this out.
Conversely I've never once been on a call where someone has said, you know what? This would be solved quicker and better via email.
If I need something done quickly then I always call. Email can be put off way too easily.
The other thing I've never seen happen in a business email is gossip. Due to natural shifts in the conversation, you learn things that may not be mentioned in an email. There are things people won't put down in an email because of whatever reason (it's in writing, could be perceived as off-topic), that they'll bring up suddenly if they think of it while talking. Some of that is important information to know.
I actually removed the phone number from our website 6 months ago and we just have email sales/support now. If someone prefers to talk on the phone (or in the rare case where it would be more efficient to do a phone call), I just call them back.
The problem is that I'm thinking we might be losing some customers who prefer to see a phone number they can call, so I'm considering putting our phone number back on the website. I just wish I could educate people to consider sending a 30 second email versus having a 30 minute phone call to sort out problems...
Extroverts don't have the capability to understand introversion, as we don't understand them. This is just a simple fact of life.
I am not as comfortable communicating through conversation. I know people who are extraordinary conversationalists. And I don't mean talkative. I am impressed by those who can jump into a conversation and express exactly what they want without having to collect and organize their thoughts, particularly in the give-and-take flow of a conversation.
I know not everyone is like me, so I try to be flexible and accommodating to provide a comfortable platform for the other person if a phone call seems more appropriate. And sometimes a phone call is necessary.
edit: I'd rather use textual communication; I feel its more precise, more document-able, and you have chance to really think about what you're saying. Of course I can deal with other communication modalities, but... eh. Not as optimal IMO. :-)
> 1. I don't like synchronous communications. Ok, sure, if you're "in the zone" or something, just turn off your phone until you're done. Sometimes doing your job means responding to things synchronously. I don't think there's any careers out there that involve 8 hours of sitting in your cube uninterrupted.
> 2. I hate making small talk.
Boo fucking hoo. You have to express an interest in another human being's life for 5 minutes. Cry me a river. You're an introvert? So what? That doesn't give you a free pass to forgo all human interaction.
> 3. I have a really hard time saying “no”.
Grow a pair. It's one little syllable. "no". Practice it in front of the mirror if you have to.
> 4. I'm pathologically polite, and just can't get the timing right.
Talking to people is like any other skill. If you practice it, you'll get better at it. Maybe if you didn't avoid talking on the phone at all costs, you'd improve.
> 5. I'm absolutely terrible at ending a call.
Again, grow a pair. "Well, it's been great talking to you, but I have some work I have to get back to. Goodbye" It's not that difficult.
I'm as introverted as the next guy. I hate talking on the phone too, but as an adult in a business environment, sometimes you have to. You can spend some time developing a valuable skill, or you can whine about it on the Internet.
> Grow a pair.
> Cry me a river.
> So what?
> Again, grow a pair.
> whine about it on the internet
Knock that right off, please, and do it right now.
Plus, civility and such are different for everyone.