The best way to handle a bully is to fight them tooth and nail even if you're going to get beaten up or you get suspended from school. If you keep fighting them the bullying will stop, and you will also gain some self-esteem.
It worked for me once. I think, bullying the loser was kind of cool in front of his gang, but rolling around on the floor wrestling with a loser in front of them was not so cool. Sure, I got pulverized but he didn't try me again.
That is an anecdote though, not data. He was a small time bully, could have simply escalated to a stabbing after school and left me permanently disabled. I don't know the real answer, but telling people is a good start. Make sure people know about every incident. Don't silently suffer.
If you told authorities and they coddled you that experience might get imprinted on your personality.
In the first the bully eventually got hit with a school desk (they were fairly light but hard) pretty bad by the victim that finally crashed out and the bully actually looked like a wimpering fool in front of a ton of people. As far as I know he didn't try to get back at the victim.
In the second it was I that flipped out and had some luck. I didn't seriously hurt him but he realized the blind intent in the moment was there. He just seemed shocked and no longer bothered
The 3rd guy had some Moroccan machismo thing going and kept picking on people he couldn't beat and it always happened fairly conventionally without suprise.
Judging from your description you didn't lay out any examples of where fighting back failed.
Which sort of explains why there’s no subsequent response.
Also these examples were mostly from incidents where the bullying got physical anyway. Much of it isn't and making it physical even as the victim tends to have drawbacks.
Obviously your personal conclusion is different but I would say it’s not an empirical or strictly logical analytical conclusion.
You will also note that I was able to guess and predict where you’re coming from. Not only did I ask for the full metric, I asked for it partly because I can predict it would be 3 out of 3. My response to the other persons reply predicted what was going on in your head quite accurately. Because of this I would say that I have knowledge about this context that you don’t know about it and that you can learn from. It’s natural for you to you to fight for your point but that would be a form of bias.
So here’s something that you can agree with. If the victim wanted to he can go to the kitchen grab a knife bring it to school to try to kill that bully. Another option is to follow that bully home and attempt to slaughter his family.
No matter how small a victim is… any bully will back down if he knew the victim was willing to raise the violence level to these insane extremes.
The point of that example is to show you a level of resistance that will cause nearly 100 percent of bullies to back down. And to also show how extremely possible it is for anyone to do. Anyone can go to the kitchen and grab a knife and raise the stakes. The point is that most victims just don’t have the balls to do it.
From a practical standpoint you only need to go a fraction of that distance in order to cause most bullies to back down. Are you willing to get violent with a bully? Maybe don’t get a knife but be willing to smash his face in with your fists. Or bring a bat to school and try smash down his legs to get him to kneel if your fists are truly too weak. If you don’t do shit then the bully won’t back down and that is primarily what the bully takes advantage of as shown with the 3/3 statistic you presented me with.
The victim definitely has choices. But he’s too scared take charge or even follow through with the right choice. Weakness is not a realistic excuse because the victim has choices in weaponry (rocks, bat) that can even the odds or even bend the odds to extreme levels (knife).
Sorry but this reads like some pompous peak redditor stuff. I'd say it would be a bad look if you're trying to convince someone or transfer and idea but the other person you agreed with wasn't right about the supposed cases nor did you draw some point we disagree on or draw out some conclusion.
>From a practical standpoint you only need to go a fraction of that distance in order to cause most bullies to back down.
Yes because for most bullies it's social posturing. The whole group dynamic doesn't often make sense if there's expected resistance. Even if the victim can be beat, few bullies feel like getting into a tussle over it let alone repeatedly. Exceptions can be notable of course and probalby bullies trend towards those escalation exceptions a bit more than others.