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Annual pass sharing is widespread in the immigrant community my family is a part of. I’ve half jokingly advised them to pull the race card if they ever get caught. “How dare you imply we all look the same?”

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I would guess that it’s very much a pass-sharing thing—I’ve noticed that the level of security around passes has increased a great deal over the past 30ish years. In 2000, a Disneyworld Pass had no expiration date and was simply labeled by gender. In 2023, the same pass was date limited and had a photograph of the passholder digitally associated with it.

My local zoo has a name on the annual pass and requires an ID with the pass to enter. Seems robust enough?

That’s robust but slow. Facial recognition doesn’t add any delay.

Considering facial recognition is rather bias with certain ethnicities it will just be inaccurate and fast, so still not solving the issue in full.

It doesn’t need to be solved in full. If the system gives a false negative, someone gets in for free, if it gives a false positive, they get their name on their ID checked.

Both of these are fine failure modes. And the bulk of people walk on through without manual checks slowing it down.

Anti fraud stuff is more about saving more in losses than it costs to implement. Rather than preventing even a single person from slipping through without paying.

Is it? Is showing a fake ID to a private individual or company even a crime? I mean, I understand showing it to a police officer is obviously bad, but you can lie all you want about your name online, in person, ... whatever you want right.

I'm Donald Duck, btw.

> I'm Donald Duck, btw

You chose the one name that will get you in legal trouble - the IP lawyers will be all over you!

I don’t know about Disneyland but Disney World stops people to search their bags and stuff as it is. I can’t imagine an ID check is the real bottleneck at the gates.

And if it was you would think just make ticketing an option… either digital to prevent ticket sharing or ID check at the service kiosks that are already outside the gates, every time. Doesn’t slow the actual gate line at all.

See? It's ALL about convenience.

Corporate america has shown it treats customer information with the highest regard for security and privacy.

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