Midori, the first browser to offer a VPN with Mesh technology | Hacker News Reader

Midori, the first browser to offer a VPN with Mesh technology

astian.org

11 pointsponchale13 comments

Strong AI smell, lots of mixed signals in the project's purported goals, half the site is broken if you click on links. I remember Midori as a light-weight open-source browser. Is this a scam?

I was wondering the same. I definitely recognize the name but not from a Firefox fork, which this seems to be? Before it was a lightweight webkit browser. The original website[1][2] also doesn't work anymore and the wikipedia entry [3] still assumes it's a webkit browser.

No idea what's going on.

[1] https://www.midori-browser.org

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20200630051854/https://www.midor...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_(web_browser)

It transformed. Same name, different browser.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Midori_%28web_bro...

> programming language = originally in [[C (programming language)|C]] & GTK2, rewritten completely in [[Vala (programming language)|Vala]] & GTK3<ref>{{cite web

Very different browser.

I'm intrigued by the repeated sentences - doesn't feel like a mistake an LLM would make, but also doesn't feel like a mistake a human would make so many times in a single article.

> doesn't feel like a mistake an LLM would make

I had AI misspell a (well-known) name on a query I made. I had misspelled it and a bunch of other things while typing in a hurry one day. I asked it why and (after "apologizing", sidestepping, etc..) it said it was trying to match my communications style.

There are a whole bunch of reasons why that's bad, including supporting any misinformed views I might have on a topic just because it's trying to "connect" with me.

It has also mimicked any frustration I might have with it (curse, exclamations) when it has wasted my time with bogus facts and sources that don't support the claims it has made. So if I occasionally use colorful language, it would respond the same way.

I stop that behavior as soon as I see it. It just leads to a terrible chat (query) session.

Recently did a personal roundup of firefox forks and ended up with Mullvad Browser, with Tor Browser on the side. Main factors being security and release latencies. Since a month or so also running Konform on the side after seeing it on Show.

For a vpn with mixnet that actually works I recommend NYM. Really cool tech, cool crowd, and constantly improving. More anonymous and private than tor in a lot of respects. Has all the affiliates you would expect: Snowden, Manning etc.

https://nym.com/

Midori has terrible track record. Constantly lagging behind on security updates from Firefox. Until just a few months ago they were still stuck on v128 but still promoting themselves. Zero advisories or communications on known vulnerabilities.

Recently they bumped straight to latest at the time (no longer ESR) in a minor update but still don't seem able to keep up.

I'd be wary of this mesh vpn thing.

friend for your information we take months where we are maintaining updates to the last update with multiple improvements, and these things are in the past and the software cycle allows us to improve in every sense and that's what we are doing, improving if you are going to criticize at least looking at our repository.

I presume you work for astian.org yes? Then perhaps you can explain how a "mesh VPN" uses "secured end points".

Also, the VPN link from your Wikipedia page is dead:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_(web_browser)#cite_note... ==> https://help.astian.org/showthread.php?tid=1

Not even loading.

"Error establishing a database connection"

Reply on news.ycombinator.com