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Apple is always surprised that non-Apple devices exist.

See: the permanent undismissable red icon to "finish setting up your Apple TV with your iPhone"

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Apple can't control non-Apple devices. They can only control their own. So this makes perfect sense.

They could control their own Apple TVs to allow that dialogue to be dismissed via the TV controls.

Agreed, but why not just finishing setting it up? Or do people own Apple TVs without iPhones? That never occurred to me since a large part of the value prop is phone integration

Yes, I believe it's possible to buy an Apple TV without owning an iPhone.

What integrations do you use? I can't really think of what I would miss on the Apple TV if I switched from iPhone. I rarely use AirPlay, disable Photos for in-house privacy reasons, and… oh yeah, the remote control for keyboard, volume, and navigation via iPhone is neat! I think the Apple TV is just a strong product on its own.

I use screen mirroring, a lot. Guess I’m in the minority around here. Really nice projecting your phone on a massive OLED to multitask on the phone. Or even pair programming and conference calls you can mirror the phone to TV for the call while coding on the laptop.

I use my Apple TV like it’s a big iPad stuck to the wall. Because that’s basically what it is. I honestly had no idea so many people just buy it to stream the same content on every other platform

Everyone I know who has or had an Apple TV used it primarily as a streaming device, just as they would use a Google TV device, or a Roku.

No, the value prop is a streaming device with a clean UX not filled with ads. My phone (which is not an iPhone) has nothing to do with it. Apple TV is a far better YouTube device than Google TV. It's also the best device for Plex, Netflix, and all the streaming apps.

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