But I did read some second hand reports that what was new and exciting was that they found some really good performance optimizations. The thing about deekseek publishing this is that now everyone has this.
Or did I miss something?
especially if it's something that the major companies had already stumbled upon (something equivalent to) and regarded as a trade secret.
It sounds like you're agreeing with upstream comment then!
>> DeepSeek and other Chinese model makers are massively accelerating progress in AI not slowing it down
> that's a bunch of unfounded hyperbole you just said.
Calling the quote on top "unfounded hyperbole" betrays lack of knowledge and awareness about the subject. Keep in mind that when we talk about real technical innovations, we have in mind published research - not closed or hidden models, some of which we know only from hype but cannot even test. A cursory look at said research reveals more Chinese names than I can count.
Deepseek did introduce real technical innovations, they're in their papers, and there was plenty of talk about another "Sputnik moment" when their first model appeared. If you don't know what that means - it's the moment when the industry mobilizes to "accelerate progress" due to the unexpected appearance of strong competition.
There's a lot more to be said, but it wouldn't do much good to a person who's not following the trends.
I can name thousands that came out western universities.
I see a lot of rhetoric that only the Chinese labs are contributing to AI while companies like Google and Microsoft are still pulishing their research.
Unfortunately the domain of scientific papers is cluttered with AI slop but still occasional serious paper that i find are from western labs particularly Google Research or Microsoft Research