They say this because in their circles it's a compliment, and nobody ever stopped to consider how the general public might react to it, especially if you claim you'll shortly be the one in charge of world-reshaping technology.
"game recognize game"
To be clear, I don’t think OpenAI could have raised what it raised as quickly as it did without him. But with the benefit of hindsight, Microsoft should have let the safety board fire him.
Not because he threatened OpenAI’s valuation. The idea that OpenAI might be worth more without Altman is still heretical talk.
> not sure if you didn't know
My three-sentence comment directly references it in the third.
More accurate to say the board I think.
Pretty incredible that employees will go to bat for a lying scum bag when they would never do that for each other.
A CEO getting fired, not by the for-profit company's Board, but by a board with a public mission, right after said company released a groundbreaking product that captured the popular imagination and then turned that into a multibillion dollar deal with Microsoft (which in turn parlayed into trillions of dollars of wealth across the economy), is absolutely news.
You’re also ignoring the biggest aspect: that these employees would never do that for the actual people doing the real work. The employees got played, the public got played, the media got played.
> which in turn parlayed into trillions of dollars of wealth across the economy
This is a fucking laugh. Where’s my and the rest of the economic workers check? Surely there’s trillions of dollars of wealth for all the economic workers if it was truly beneficial. More like stealing trillions of dollars from the working classes via the economy.
No instead things have sky rocketed in cost due to AI CEOs sucking up all the money investing it in…datacenters and raising energy costs for everyone which has a downstream effect of making plenty more expensive while suppressing wages.
This term has taken the cultural place of FUD. I’m starting to see it as another thought-terminating cliche. Like yes, people should be trying to understand what happened in those days.
> Where’s my and the rest of the economic workers check
I never made any claims around how it’s distributed. The fact that this wealth exists, and is sprouting up in multiple sectors, is indisputable. (Whether it’s paper wealth is another question. But people are cashing in massively and across the economy, albeit outside jobs that code.)
Not really when the end result is the same in the grander picture. Helping save Altman does ZERO for LLMs. There is always another douche bag rich a-hole that will do what he was doing. That’s why there are multiple federally contracted LLM companies. And Altman’s is often considered worse than the competition. Why is it important to understand what happened during those days? Enlighten me.
I'm curious what you're basing this on. Are you aware of any grumblings on the inside? From the outside it appears no different than before largely because it seems everybody knew he was a slippery dude anyways, but they tolerated it because he was slippery in ways that were profitable.
I also think he was prescient in his unquenching thirst for compute. Despite Anthropic possibly having a better product I think OpenAI will prevail simply because he's gone to extreme (sometimes diabolical, cf that DRAM deal) extents in ensuring they have enough compute.
Like, it's pretty likely that Claude's recent problems are due to insufficient compute. With 9's (and resultant loss in goodwill) comparable to GitHub, I actually have doubts they will be able to hit their projected ARR. OpenAI could win simply by dint of having capacity, which can be attributed to Altman's shenanigans.
Anthropic is currently raising tens of billions of dollars at a favourable valuation to fund infrastructure needs. From a shareholder perspective, that beats raising the capital ahead of demand.
> OpenAI could win simply by dint of having capacity, which can be attributed to Altman's shenanigans
If OpenAI is able to deny compute to Anthropic, yes. I'm not seeing any sign that OpenAI will be able to lock Anthropic out of the tech giants' clouds.
(That said, I'm not sure what the Stargate deal falling through means.)