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Apple got so bad with its products, so bad indeed that they took a bet on the low price sector with the Neo and abandoned the powerhouses. It is so funny, because due to the high profit margin as a relative share of the price Apple earns more by selling a few top models than with dozens of Neos.

Tim Cook, the supply chain master leaves house the moment the very reason why he got hired in the first place is in dire straits.

I don’t think that the successor will likely change that, since Cook made sure, no one is remembering Jobs anymore and as top manager won’t pass a reversal of many of his decisions.

So he will lead through a CEO he controls. Only if the new guy takes on the battle in the name of product there might be a chance but this would mean, Cook and the new CEO have to be dismissed. So popcorn times, I think Apple is going to stay as boring as it got, while the quality constantly declines.

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The Neo won't sell dozens of models they will take the low end laptop market by storm. I think your comment will age very poorly

The Neo is already considered a huge success and is the reason for the scarcity.

This exactly. No other laptop comes close on price for the hardware you get. Yeah you may get more ram in a PC but promise you it won’t feel as fast when you’re using it day to day or have as good of a display or battery life.

In same price range you can get a PC that not only has more ram but also has better multicore performance, better disk speed and better port selection. Yes neo wins on build quality, trackpad, speaker, display and battery life but the PC would also allow you to install any linux distro.

So the Neo wins on things people care about

> so bad indeed that they took a bet on the low price sector with the Neo and abandoned the powerhouses

The Neo isn't just a bet on low prices - it's a machine that convinces people they can get away with less RAM. In the middle of a pricing crunch, why wouldn't you ship an 8GB machine like the Neo?

Its a win-win, Apple gets to ship a brand new SKU in volume despite the RAM crunch, and they get to punch into a previously untouched market.

I'm hoping that the success of the Neo and the RAM shortage makes people realise that 8GB should be enough for most tasks without constantly swapping.

That 32GB or even 64GB is considered a minimum to be able to run some word processing, chat app, fetch remote content, and display funny cat photos is preposterous. In terms of information storage, these are absolutely immense numbers.

The infinite treadmill of chasing for more RAM and then immediately proceeding to carelessly fill all of it at the first line of code is part of a deeper, wasteful, and self-imposed obsolescence process.

We don't need more RAM, we need more frugal software.

I am curious. Where did you learn about 64 GB being considered minimum for those things ? I have never heard this.

I am able to do all of those things pretty fine with 16gb ram cheap msi laptop.

> so bad indeed that they took a bet on the low price sector with the Neo and abandoned the powerhouses

Says this on a post about the powerhouses all selling like hot cakes, with many months long waiting times.

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