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You assumed they are against density and not just mourning a nostalgic place for them?

If you say you support density but that support withers away at the slightest hint of nostalgia or trade off, or because some old ladies walk in the dead mall sometimes (that was the cited reason), then you don’t really support density.

NIMBYs are usually not against new stuff in their backyard, they really just don’t want to lose the historic parking structures and culturally relevant SFHs already there.

Perhaps you are harboring NIMBY views you refuse to acknowledge and you are feeling defensive? Are you holding onto the corpse of Lloyd center?

Literally nowhere did you mention that they said their support for density withered. You only said they mourned the loss of a mall they liked.

Those are not conflicting things. Mourning something does not imply disliking the thing that replaced it.

In context, when they said, “that mall is rad, I hope they block it there’s a campaign to stop the demolition” made it pretty close to unambiguous.

Why are people assuming that the kitchen coworkers are reasonable and that I am somehow making assumptions? I was there, I heard the conversation, HN replies did not. Portlanders are notorious for this sort of tradeoff-ignoring woo woo bullshit anyway, frankly it isn’t an extraordinary claim.

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