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This is not the case. As you just read in the article:

https://highwaycode.org.uk/rule-140/

> Cycle lanes. These are shown by road markings and signs. You MUST NOT drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a solid white line during its times of operation. Do not drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a broken white line unless it is unavoidable. You MUST NOT park in any cycle lane whilst waiting restrictions apply. Law: Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984: Sections 5 & 8

Here's a cycle lane with a broken white line: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5159626,-0.1020373,3a,75y,17...

You shouldn't enter, stop or park here unless it is "unavoidable". You're a taxi driver dropping off a passenger? That's not "unavoidable".

Here's a cycle lane with an unbroken line: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5162184,-0.1047894,3a,75y,15...

The latter, no you CAN'T enter it to drop people off, no matter who you are. It is literally illegal to do so.

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You've quoted the rules which forbid parking and driving in the bike lane and then went on to confidently make up the part about stopping and dropping people off.

In UK highway terminology, you're "driving" in the bike lane if your vehicle enters it.

If that was the case they wouldn't need to forbid "parking" since it would not be possible to "park" without "driving" first.

It's explicitly legal for cabs to drop off passengers cycle lanes in London https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/walking-and-cycling-changes-o...

Let's get this straight.

There are the general laws - the highway code. Transport for London has made special exceptions for black cabs (which are one kind of taxi), and for private hire vehicles (a different kind of taxi - this is what Uber, Lyft and Waymo are), in London.

The GP said "all drivers are allowed" - no, they are not. You're saying it's "legal for cabs" - yes it is.

- No cars can drive along a cycle lane.

- A normal car cannot enter, stop, wait or park in a cycle lane with an unbroken line, per the highway code.

- A normal car can enter a cycle lane with a broken line and may be able to stop, wait or park in it depending on the restrictions posted at the side of the road.

- Black cabs and PHVs in London can, and in fact have to pull over to the kerb to pick-up and drop-off, including into cycle lanes with an unbroken line. They can even do this on double-red lines, which mean "no stopping at any time" to everyone else. But they cannot do it for any longer than to pick-up and drop-off. They cannot wait or park there.

They can also pick-up and drop-off in some bus stops (which again, is an offence for normal cars). The main difference between black cabs and PHVs is that black cabs can drive in bus lanes, enter taxi ranks, and be hailed from the street, while PHVs can't.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire/parking-i...

The driving is the part before and after the stopping, which is the parking.

You cannot stop in a cycle lane to drop people off without first driving into the cycle lane.

That is technically correct but not how the language works.

"Advisory and mandatory cycle lanes, marked by a painted line, can be entered into by taxis and PHVs for pick-up and drop-off at the kerb edge"

You are allowed to drop off people in a lot of places you aren't allowed to drive or park.

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