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I've tried and couldn't make it sound like Angine de Poitrine, it completely ignores the microtones. Sounds more like Polyphia. It does look like AdP is the answer to AI.... or we haven't trained the models with sufficient microtones, likely due to western music influence.

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Three albums not enough to train AI on?

- Vol I (AdP)

- Vol II (AdP)

- Flying Microtonal Banana (KGatLW)

I just wanted to write this comment because it will be almost impenetrable to anyone who doesn't already know.

Bunch of Balkan and Turkish music has quarter tones too. (And you’re forgetting KG and LW…)

> (And you’re forgetting KG and LW…)

Now I'm only replying because I'll take any opportunity to prop King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, which is the third item of the original three dot points.

KG = KG and LW = KGatLW = King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.

I don't like all of KGatLW's music but, as someone who is also a big fan of Frank Zappa's extensive corpus of works, I love their versatility and their willingness to be versatile.

One of my favourite performances of KG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_XU1iKRRc (I can't believe this is from ten years ago!)

You are forgetting the albums KG and LW which are both microtonal. I knew exactly what you were saying :-)

Dang, there's a gap in my knowledge. Thank you for pointing it out, this will be filled tomorrow!

KGatLW are so prolific with their releases, I've been a long way behind for a long while.

There's a short and direct line from the opening riff of LW's Static Electricity to AdP.

Thanks again :)

For anyone unknowing like me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ssi-9wS1so

I think this is rather an AGI benchmark than a pelican.

Thank you for bringing Angine de Poitrine tonmy attention, this is awesome music and performance!

Not the one who posted it, but welcome to a decreasingly exclusive club!

When I first watched the AdP KEXP performance, it felt like my musical knowledge up to that point was just preparing me for AdP. I've been through micro-tonal (King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, specially their Flying Microtonal Banana album), polyrhythms and time changes (Tool, The Mars Volta, Metallica's St. Anger album, various other bits and pieces), looping (Party Dozen -ish-, Adam Page[0][1][2], various Math Rock bands, primarily Battles), and other general "out-there-ness" (Arthur Brown[3], Frank Zappa, Mr. Bungle[4]).

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95h3M6BG2QM

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1ykpNPOSg (17 years ago, holy shit)

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er--olP_8wQ

[3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXYgLPBfF_w

[4]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4YvvhKW7bA

The Adam Page stuff is all, essentially, stream of consciousness, unique to the individual performance. He had a monthly residency at a pub in the city a long while back, and I reckon I went to see him ten times over the course of a year and each performance was unique. I think they're all recorded on Bandcamp somewhere, hey, yes, here: https://adampage.bandcamp.com/music. I even named one of his songs: "Preventing a future disaster" (from September 2014, although it's misspelled). I find part of the enjoyment of looping music is in the performance itself, the combination of conducting and choreography.

AdP is the equivalent of pelicans on bicycles

For bands less "out there" than AdeP it's also disappointing.

I'm struggling to get a JJJ style "Like a Version" cover of Sleaford Mods doing King Stingray or vice versa .. no joy in the sense of it's a struggle to get anything that sounds anything like either band.

The text it generates midway sounds promising .. and then it plays audio that has zero of the unique elements of either.

It does explicitly state that it can't (or won't) imitate the style of a band(?).

I came here looking for that, did not disappoint.

I imagine that AI can be trained on Angine de Poitrine, but it would never really be able to create something like that no matter how many text prompts it was given.

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