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I’m a little confused about the pricing packages. In what scenario would being able to create 600 songs a month (20/day) be too few?

I could understand if this was an API that people built products around, but it seems to be geared directly at consumers.

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If it's anything like suno, it probably takes you 30 to 40 attempts to dial in what you were looking for. (And don't get me wrong, the results can be great with suno - there's just a lot of trial and error, and dice rolling.)

I don't know anything about these AI tools, but it seems to me like, the yield rates of all these AI media generators are exactly in the range of that of lootbox games. Kids "pull" it like slot machines for set prompt, keeping no more than 1% of outputs. The rest is just thrown away, only potentially useful as negative data. So 600 per month total is probably like just couples per month usable.

That’s a huge amount of messing around to get those handful of songs then. If only 1% are good, you’re pulling the lever 100x more than you should need to.

Putting commentary about AI media aside:

How many iterations (arrangements and recordings) do you think a typical Billboard pop song goes through before it's ready for a final mix and mastering?

Go find a YouTube of someone doing this work, it is kind of mind blowing. Given how expensive studio time is, you realize why it costs so much for a popular artist to produce a polished album.

Eminem allegedly has hundreds of songs in the vault.

Odds are for every 200 ai songs you generate , 2 or 3 are decent.

Anyway. UMG will probably force you to sign over training rights in future record deals.

The models still can't rap. Sounds like if you asked someone who didn't know what rap was to read a script

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