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I saw this video yesterday and considered posting it, but I wasn’t sure if it was appropriate for HN.

This channel has another video where it shows how the clean room lab is created starting from a basic backyard shed, and that was truly astounding. The positive pressure to keep the number of particles low in someone’s backyard is almost mystical to me.

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If you haven't seen this one, I highly recommend it:

Indistinguishable From Magic: Manufacturing Modern Computer Chips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFhc8R_uO4&t=2070s

It's quite old but I think there is no modern version of it.

I've tried posting to HN a few times but it hasn't gained traction for some reason, but I find it absolutely mind blowing.

Videos in general don’t get much traction here. Most of the time I don’t want to watch them in this context either, when other sites I do.

Maybe it’s just I come here for the old web feel when video was costly, rare and short.

Which is a pity, because lots of videos really need to be seen to be fully appreciated. Especially the ones showing stuff being made. And the ones that tend to show up here are usually worth the time.

I'm totally with the text folks on the 5 hour Fossdem sessions, though. Give me an accurate transcript I can grep or don't even bother.

Yeah, I understand and partially agree.

However I've discovered wonderful gems like this RAM video.

There's something to it. I personally am happy to have one of these few precious places left where I can find content to read rather than watch.

Video links are naturally gonna get less clicks from people scrolling HN at work :)

I rewatch that every year as a reminder of what we're capable of. Great video.

Yep, me too. Still feels magical after all these years.

The whole process was deep magic to me before I watched that video. It didn't seem less magical after I've watched it. More so, if anything.

Asianometry[0] has a number of videos on EUV lithography that cover some of the mind-blowing advances in the years since.

Veritasium[1] recently also made a video on the subject.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKtxx9TnH76RYHY7L1YzE...

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUHjLxm3V0

This was the one that did it for me: "38C3 - From Silicon to Sovereignty: How Advanced Chips Are Redefining Global Dominance" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdppYYfQJgg

Absolutely insane stuff.

This one I did not know! Thanks for sharing

I think if it's interesting to you then it's worth posting, and letting the voting system do it's thing. I only rarely post because by the time I've seen something it's usually already been posted

> but I wasn’t sure if it was appropriate for HN

why even allow the cognitive overhead to worry about such a thing? it's not for you to decide anyway - let the users decide using the voting system that's built to task

Tbh this is exactly the sort of thing I'd come here to see

Recently I saw a post about Bonsai trees on the front page. Making your own RAM is 100% more relevant to HN than quite a few posts I see on the main page.

The HN crowd decides what is relevant

It's about intellectual curiosity, so it's both.

You’re not sure if someone building a RAM clean room in a shed is appropriate for HackerNews, literally “news for nerds”? A dictionary purchase may be warranted

Agree with the sentiment, but “news for nerds” is Slashdot.

Slashdot still exists?

Well, “exists” is a pretty broad spectrum.

I miss the comment tagging system: insightful, informative, interesting, funny. It would make sense for hn.

You forgot Troll, you insensitive clod!

"Score: 5, Troll" is the ultimate achievement.

To put it that into context, some tags count as upvotes, others count as downvotes, "Troll" is a downvote. So to have your post labelled as "Troll" with a positive score, it has to have enough upvotes to compensate the penalty from the "Troll" votes, but without having another tag dominate. 5 is the maximum score.

"Score: 5, Troll" is therefore the mark of a very successful troll.

They also have "Underrated" and "Overrated" which apply points but do not act as tags. So I guess the easiest way to get +5 Troll is to have many Troll and Underrated votes, if it works the way I think it does.

you must be new here

Their standard is higher than that, "Stuff that matters."

I think he plans to go far beyond just making RAM in that clean room. This is pure speculation, but I suspect the goal of that channel is to just make doom from scratch.

Given that the shed in this guy’s backyard is already approaching the entire national technological output of any country in the 1970s I think he may get there.

In a comment he says he is doing it for some research into a related thing (somethiing to do with GaN sheets?)

Yeah but it's a YouTube video. Those tend not to do super well on the front page.

Just gimme the transcripts for a speed read

It’s perfectly ok to submit links that don’t reach the front page!

There's no mention of AGI, climate change, AWS outages, Trump, crypto schadenfreude or my new MVP that you should totally sign up for even though I just vibe coded it 20 minutes ago and the DNS hasn't fully propagated yet, but the API is amazing plz like comment and subscribe.

Ok, maybe I'm being a bit cynical. Stories about bikeable cities are welcome too. And wasn't Soylent popular for a hot minute back in the day?

Yeah we need 20 more LLM submissions instead, that's the hard hitting content. /s

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