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Running it through opencode to their API and... it definitely seems like it's "overthinking" -- watching the thought process, it's been going for pages and pages and pages diagnosing and "thinking" things through... without doing anything. Sitting at 50k+ output tokens used now just going in thought circles, complete analysis paralysis.

Might be a configuration or prompt issue. I guess I'll wait and see, but I can't get use out of this now.

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Had the same experience using it for a refactor of a 3k LOC monolith via the Pi harness and OpenRouter. After burning through $8 worth of tokens it left the code in a broken state, the "thoughts" were full of loops where it would edit the monolith, then refer back to the original file, not finding it and then overwriting its changes with "git checkout --"

It's probably bad harness. I had a similar bad experience with qwen max yesterday also through opencode.

In the past I tried Kimi thru Claude code I might try that again

I think this kind of overthinking is an extremely common pattern in the Chinese models. GLM's models are also very much like this.

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