There are a bunch of ways to break it, or misconfigure it. But I have idea what this isp method is.
There are a bunch of ways to break it, or misconfigure it. But I have idea what this isp method is.
More concretely, they can run the equivalent of `ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 via <your WAN IP>` on a machine that's connected to your WAN network, and then their machine will send packets with a dest of 192.168.1.x to your router. Your router will route them onto your LAN because that's what its own routing table says to do with them.
Anyone on your immediate upstream network can do this, not just your ISP. Also, if you use ISP-assigned GUAs then this inbound route will already exist and anyone on the Internet can connect. Applying NAT to your outbound connections will change their apparent source address, but it won't make that inbound route disappear.
I have yet to see a router that allows that forwarding unless explicitly configured. Still, i'm using mostly openwrt/opnsense/mikrotik
Default is to disallow/block forwarding packets from public wan to private range lan.
ISP can still inject packets on ports that NAT opens if it spoofs the source address/port, so you still have some validity to argument.
It's true that almost everything comes with a firewall rule that blocks new connections from the WAN to the LAN, so in practice these connections will be blocked on most things by default. But they come with this rule precisely because NAT doesn't do the job.
Cool, me too :)
Anyway, the other side of the argument:
It is the default and default is secure. Users don't have to reason about it, they can assume it works, how doesn't matter and they may lack training/willingness to figure out.
You can't say the same for IPv6 where default is allow (have things changed?, havent checked in a long time)
NAT contributes nothing to your security in this scenario, and instead makes it harder (not easier) to understand and reason about what your router is doing.
That's the thing, it's not the default, default is public ipv6 for everyone and its the users duty to configure firewall...
I could definitely set this up easily, someone like my parents or friends would ask me 'what's IPv6?'
That's precisely why routers come configured with a firewall that blocks inbound connections from the WAN -- because the protocol itself doesn't have a firewall by default, and neither does NAT.
For some ISPs you could connect a switch or hub (they still existed with cable came out, 1gbps switches were expensive) and connect multiple computers and they would all get different public IPs.
Back then a lot of network applications like windows filesharing heavily used the local subnet broadcast IP to announce themselves to other local computers on the network. Yes this meant when you opened up windows file sharing you might see the share from Dave's computer across town. I don't recall if the hidden always on shares like $c where widely know about at this time.
ISPs fixed this by blocking most of the traffic to and from the subnet broadcast address at the modem/headend level but for some time after I could still run a packet capture and see all the ARP packets and some other broadcasts from other models on my node, but it wasn't enough to be able to interfere with them anymore.