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Apple TV's Upcoming Cyberpunk Series Will Be the Matrix Meets Blade Runner

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Goddamnit! All I wanted is a quiet life for a few years; and now they're making a biopic about me? They didn't even reach out to my team to gather details. I guarantee they'll probably get my shell and font preferences wrong.

Hurry up and get to the studio in your high powered vehicle before your implant times out!

Its ok he'll just slot some new softs from Shinjuku corp and break the ICE on the implants from his VR 3d rendered file system that he jockeys into with his Nintendo power glove.

*Oh god, you made me remember Adobe Atmosphere was a thing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Atmosphere

I didn't know Adobe Atmosphere was a thing. Thank you for providing another example of that strange period of MMO-lites like Worlds and VRML. Interesting to think Adobe Atmosphere versus Worlds mirrors the much later one-sided walloping of Metaverse versus VR Chat.

Huh - I don't remember Atmosphere ... just VRML ?

Thanks for the link!

While I'm interested to see how they adapt Neuromancer to the screen, I get a sense that the author of the article never read the book nor took the time to understand Neuromancer's place in culture.

Likewise. Having read Neuromancer a good five years before The Matrix ever hit the cinemas, the two are well distinct in my mind in a manner in which they apparently aren’t to this author.

They have very little in common, really.

You mean lines like this didn't give it away?

"Apple TV’s Neuromancer will borrow from The Matrix’s existential mystery and Blade Runner’s textured setting..."

The article is the most blatant AI slop I’ve ever seen. Neuromancer is iconic in a way that needs no clumsy metaphor or equivocating awkward comparison.

It’s like reading a biography of George Washington and the “author” keeps reaching for ways to explain his traits saying things like, “He was known primarily for his love of cherries, so much so that he chopped down a tree of them. Very similar to the more well known Honest Abe Lincoln who would chop down trees due to his love of cabin building. This is the most important fact about these two men that I found mentioned online.”

I feel less educated for having read it.

Agree, it's awful.

It will need to be very, very different from the book unless they go retro-futurist. Like Foundation, as they mentioned.

I hope it fairs better than Gibson's other adaption, The Peripheral. Like many things I liked, cancelled after one season.

Calling the Neuromancer like that is an abomination and shows total ignorance about Gibson being the OG of the genre.

What the actual fuck.

The kind of person who came up with it has no understanding or appreciation of the genre or the concepts involved. There is no conceptual thread to unify that book and the movie franchise.

Wait, wait what if we combined “the odyssey and … the bible!” Wat. “No no, it makes sense. If you ignore everything both books are about, the textural uniqueness and the every concept each of them contains!”

It’s TV. You’re getting derivative pablum in the best case.

I highly doubt the creators for the show are actually combining The Matrix and Blade Runner. It just seems the author is hallucinating nonsense.

The Matrix took inspiration from Neuromancer and I guess Blade Runner is the closest we have to a cyberpunk-vibe movie?

None of the text in this article are quotes by the creators, it’s just someone who clearly hasn’t read Neuromancer an asked an LLM to write the article and compare it to existing movies.

Matrix isn’t cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is a sub-genre of punk. Think bikers, street gangs, heavy metal. The first two Terminators.

By the time Matrix came around, punk was out. Not a bad thing. Things come and go.

But sadly the cyber and punk parts got confused: Steampunk and Biopunk, which aren’t very punky.

I’m usually not a genre stickler, but I just got done reading anthology of early 80s cyberpunk punk. It was shocking. Really shocking. It was more about heavy metal and raves than technology.

As Gibson himself said, the Matrix owed a lot more to Phillip K. Dick than to his sprawl trilogy.

...and as indicated by the presence of the comic on set while shooting the Matrix, and as said by Grant Morisson, the Matrix was largely derrivative of The Invisibles.

My favourite book finally has its TV show made.

I won't get my hopes up.

I haven't read Neuromancer (though I have read some of the author's other books), but I can at least say Apple's been killing it with tv shows lately. Hopefully this one continues the trend.

I have since found the showrunner also made the show Almost Human which I liked.

I have upgraded to cautiously optimistic.

Their Foundation adaptation is pretty terrible at understanding what the books are about.

Going from a story where societies and not individuals are the "heroes" to people with magical powers.

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