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Where the DOGE Operatives Are Now

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It's a shame that anyone hired them. There's nothing like failing upwards.

There's no accountability in Western society for corruption. At least the CCP occasionally executes someone to make a point.

And steal organs from dissidents

If you actually follow those claims, you'll find a report published by a cohort partially composed of Falun Gong members.

The actual report points to about 60-80 possible instances of doctors not putting in the maximum amount of effort to save a life over a period of 20-30 years.

Not exactly systemic like people parrot. Sorta like how people endlessly repeated "social credit score" despite most Chinese acknowledging it barely existed for a majority of the population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_organ_harvesting_from_F...

"Since 2005 China's Deputy Health Minister Huang Jiefu acknowledged on several occasions that approximately 65% of organ transplants in China were sourced from executed prisoners.[33][34][35] In 2006 the World Medical Association demanded that China cease harvesting organs from prisoners, who are not deemed able to properly consent.[36]"

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"Experts have also expressed concern that in addition to executed prisoners, non-death-row political prisoners and prisoners of conscience are also being used to supply the organ transplant industry.[39][40] Researchers, including ones affiliated with The Epoch Times, the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China, and the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, point out that data from China between 2010 and 2018 may have been falsified or manipulated because of "contradictory, implausible, or anomalous data artefacts" and because they match a quadratic equation with model parsimony that is one to two orders of magnitude smoother than those of other nations."

65% would be tens of thousands...

It's like going out of your way to hire north korean IT workers to ensure all your stuff gets stolen and ransomwared.

Jeremy Lewin was the cause of so many deaths from his actions here. I wonder if he smiled as he cut USAID funding. I wonder if he laughed when vaccines weren't delivered and babies died.

I disapprove of this kind of article. These useful rubes are not powerful masterminds.

Why go on a witch hunt to hold a 19 year old responsible, when meanwhile Mark “they trust me dumbfucks” Zuckerberg is left off the hook for his teenage improprieties?

Zuck should be held accountable for myriad things.

Maybe we would have been better off if people went after Zuckerberg when he was 19 too

You are assuming these people were just following procedure. This is not accurate. There is at least one case where data was taken and intended to be improperly used at a private company.

These people are more than useful rubes. They actively committed unethical (if not illegal) acts.

They were following the procedure they were ordered to follow. They were doing exactly what they were meant to be doing.

And a lot of people on HN were enthusiastically supportive of what they were doing. Even the illegal stuff. Especially the illegal stuff. Odd how back then DOGE were "bold, brilliant patriots doing what was necessary to cut government waste and drain the swamp" and now they're innocent naive babes who were just in over their heads.

Why not both? I really don’t think they are rubes. I wouldn’t have done anything like this at 19, and nor would any of my friends at the time.

We can do both.

I dunno, I feel like the kid who used ChatGPT to decide to cut funding to a program such that tens of thousands of people now die deserves some social criticism. People should experience shame when entering in to such a project.

A kid who breaks into a car to steal a backpack gets railroaded into prison. That's orders of magnitude less harmful to society than what these guys did.

This does not waive Zuck of his crimes either. But all these DOGE perps need to serve life in prison without parole as a warning sign to any others who engage in such a brazen and unaccountable task. People want every one of these criminals to answer severely for their part in it. That includes all their financial assets being seized by the next incoming administration. I'd go further and seize all financial assets of their parents, siblings, children, et al. Those around them that allowed such criminality to be executed should suffer as well.

>But all these DOGE perps need to serve life in prison without parole as a warning sign to any others who engage in such a brazen and unaccountable task.

We would need a Constitutional amendment removing the President's power of pardon first. Otherwise, from now on (also thanks to SCOTUS) any administration and anyone the administration chooses is simply above the law.

They actively violated the law under the guidance of someone that had no right or reason to be five miles within the government sphere. We can and should arrest every single one of them and work our way up the ladder to Musk.

I can't help but notice the quality of the writing on this article is very low. Years ago Wired use to write with quite a bit more flair.

A decade or so ago before the Conde Nast take over.

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